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Did Trump Lie About the Attack on Border Agents in Texas?
The president and other border hawks allege two U.S. border agents were assaulted by bad hombres, but local law enforcement, medical personnel, and family members say otherwise.
Jeremy Kryt
11.25.17 12:00 AM ET
One U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed and another badly injured last week during what the FBI referred to as a tragic incident in southwest Texas about 110 miles east of El Paso.
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The lack of available evidence, eyewitnesses, gunshot wounds, or victim testimony in the Martinez case has not dissuaded President Trump and other Republican border hawks from using the unexplained episode as an excuse to call for a heightened crackdown along the U.S.-Mexican border.
Once again President Trump showed his willingness to appropriate an American familys tragedy for his own political gain. Just a few hours after Martinez was declared dead, POTUS took to his preferred platform for addressing the nation.
Border Patrol Officer killed at Southern Border, another badly hurt. We will seek out and bring to justice those responsible. We will, and must, build the Wall! he tweeted.
Weve come to expect that kind of fear mongering from the man who once dubbed Mexican immigrants criminals, drug dealers, rapists, and, later, bad hombres.
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Mr. Trump offered no explanation as to how well-armed border agents could be overpowered by hand. Just as purveyors of the stoning hypothesis were unable to account for the officers failure to return fire at their alleged attackers, or how the attackers managed such precise stone-throwing on a pitch black night.
Other investigators, however, have offered a much simpler theory: The reason the men were found lying at the bottom of a high-banked drainage ditch is because they fell into it in the dark.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/did-trump-lie-about-the-attack-on-border-agents-in-texas-7
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Tweeting so much lately?
trusty elf
(7,402 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)for "Liar" vs lier.
Unless I'm missing something. (I just don't want you to open the creator up to ridicule if posted on social media.)
El Mimbreno
(777 posts)trusty elf
(7,402 posts)It's a double pun, as noted by El Mimbreno.
I like visual puns, no matter how bad!
like these:
Haydn Sikh
Gorgon Zola
Gnome Chompsky
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)"Lier" just isn't a word I have used, quite possibly, ever. And I cannot remember the last time I saw it, so yeah, it got me!
Vinca
(50,310 posts)With one agent dead and the other injured, if it had been a murder and assault we would have known about it. The problem with guns is that sometimes they go off when you don't want them to and kill you or someone else. Maybe that's what happened if they fell into a ditch. Don should worry more about ditches and less about walls.
maranadem
(54 posts)To help, I ofer this simple flow chart.
Did trump lie?
Was he awake?
Yeshe was lying.
No-he was lying.
MyOwnPeace
(16,940 posts)We can use your keen insight - your flow chart is a perfect example!
sarge43
(28,945 posts)If he's breathing, he's lying.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)maranadem
(54 posts)On the one hand, that has been the nickname the family has been using for me for the last 30 years due to my left leaning views.
On the other hand, it is increasingly being used to refer to any number of Putins puppets in and around the white house.
The first would implie that you have already figured out who I really am.
The second would be an insult.
Dont take this seriously. I assume you had the best of intentions and now Ill go back to reading my book.
And, thanks.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Welcome...
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)and the answer would be, always, Yes.
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)If he didn't, it would be out of character.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Ilsa
(61,698 posts)He really liked the idea of grifting and suckering everyone, no matter what ethical lines he needed to cross.
tazkcmo
(7,302 posts)I still feel confident in answering YES!
WillParkinson
(16,862 posts)Well, duh.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The Border Patrol is using this to justify that unarmed kid who got killed a couple of years ago. Trump is using it to build a wall. Cruz is using it for re-election.
It seems to be working out just fine for everyone! Except, you know, for the two cops and their families. For them things are pretty fucking awful.