Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

babylonsister

(171,094 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 08:23 AM Nov 2017

Did Trump Lie About the Attack on Border Agents in Texas?

FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING
Did Trump Lie About the Attack on Border Agents in Texas?
The president and other border hawks allege two U.S. border agents were assaulted by ‘bad hombres,’ but local law enforcement, medical personnel, and family members say otherwise.
Jeremy Kryt
11.25.17 12:00 AM ET


One U.S. Border Patrol agent was killed and another badly injured last week during what the FBI referred to as a “tragic incident” in southwest Texas about 110 miles east of El Paso.

snip//

The lack of available evidence, eyewitnesses, gunshot wounds, or victim testimony in the Martinez case has not dissuaded President Trump and other Republican border hawks from using the unexplained episode as an excuse to call for a heightened crackdown along the U.S.-Mexican border.

Once again President Trump showed his willingness to appropriate an American family’s tragedy for his own political gain. Just a few hours after Martinez was declared dead, POTUS took to his preferred platform for addressing the nation.


“Border Patrol Officer killed at Southern Border, another badly hurt. We will seek out and bring to justice those responsible. We will, and must, build the Wall!” he tweeted.


We’ve come to expect that kind of fear mongering from the man who once dubbed Mexican immigrants “criminals, drug dealers, rapists,” and, later, “bad hombres.”


snip//

Mr. Trump offered no explanation as to how well-armed border agents could be overpowered by hand. Just as purveyors of the stoning hypothesis were unable to account for the officers’ failure to return fire at their alleged attackers, or how the attackers’ managed such precise stone-throwing on a pitch black night.

Other investigators, however, have offered a much simpler theory: The reason the men were found lying at the bottom of a high-banked drainage ditch is because they fell into it in the dark.

more...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/did-trump-lie-about-the-attack-on-border-agents-in-texas-7
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Did Trump Lie About the Attack on Border Agents in Texas? (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2017 OP
I wonder if this is why Vincete Fox has been dewsgirl Nov 2017 #1
pathological trusty elf Nov 2017 #2
Great graphic, except Ilsa Nov 2017 #11
Looks like a double pun to me. nt El Mimbreno Nov 2017 #14
The spelling is intentional. trusty elf Nov 2017 #17
"Cereal" was easy enough. Ilsa Nov 2017 #20
They've been referring to it as a "possible assault" which is downright odd. Vinca Nov 2017 #3
You lost me at Did trump lie? maranadem Nov 2017 #4
Welcome to DU! MyOwnPeace Nov 2017 #6
Welcome to DU sarge43 Nov 2017 #9
Welcome to DU,,,,,Comrade! Cryptoad Nov 2017 #13
Not sure how to respond to the term comrade maranadem Nov 2017 #15
Very accurate. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2017 #16
The OP could have ended the question with "Did Trump lie?" NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #18
Did Trump Lie? Martin Eden Nov 2017 #5
The man is past simple lies- Hes good at glomming on any tragety & uses it to promote HIS agenda. Sunlei Nov 2017 #7
I think he also read a lot about P.T. Barnum, IIRC. Ilsa Nov 2017 #12
I stopped reading at the word "lie" tazkcmo Nov 2017 #8
Did Trump Lie.... WillParkinson Nov 2017 #10
Does Isaac Newton get the reward money? Nevernose Nov 2017 #19

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
11. Great graphic, except
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:46 AM
Nov 2017

for "Liar" vs lier.
Unless I'm missing something. (I just don't want you to open the creator up to ridicule if posted on social media.)

trusty elf

(7,402 posts)
17. The spelling is intentional.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:24 PM
Nov 2017

It's a double pun, as noted by El Mimbreno.

I like visual puns, no matter how bad!

like these:

Haydn Sikh



Gorgon Zola



Gnome Chompsky



Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
20. "Cereal" was easy enough.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 04:38 PM
Nov 2017

"Lier" just isn't a word I have used, quite possibly, ever. And I cannot remember the last time I saw it, so yeah, it got me!

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
3. They've been referring to it as a "possible assault" which is downright odd.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 08:41 AM
Nov 2017

With one agent dead and the other injured, if it had been a murder and assault we would have known about it. The problem with guns is that sometimes they go off when you don't want them to and kill you or someone else. Maybe that's what happened if they fell into a ditch. Don should worry more about ditches and less about walls.

 

maranadem

(54 posts)
4. You lost me at Did trump lie?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 09:02 AM
Nov 2017

To help, I ofer this simple flow chart.

Did trump lie?

Was he awake?
Yes————he was lying.
No————-he was lying.

 

maranadem

(54 posts)
15. Not sure how to respond to the term comrade
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:37 AM
Nov 2017

On the one hand, that has been the nickname the family has been using for me for the last 30 years due to my left leaning views.

On the other hand, it is increasingly being used to refer to any number of Putin’s puppets in and around the white house.

The first would implie that you have already figured out who I really am.
The second would be an insult.

Don’t take this seriously. I assume you had the best of intentions and now I’ll go back to reading my book.

And, thanks.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. The man is past simple lies- Hes good at glomming on any tragety & uses it to promote HIS agenda.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:02 AM
Nov 2017
he learned how from his hitler playbook, only book he ever read & re-read.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
12. I think he also read a lot about P.T. Barnum, IIRC.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:48 AM
Nov 2017

He really liked the idea of grifting and suckering everyone, no matter what ethical lines he needed to cross.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
19. Does Isaac Newton get the reward money?
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 01:48 PM
Nov 2017

The Border Patrol is using this to justify that unarmed kid who got killed a couple of years ago. Trump is using it to build a wall. Cruz is using it for re-election.

It seems to be working out just fine for everyone! Except, you know, for the two cops and their families. For them things are pretty fucking awful.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Did Trump Lie About the A...