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bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 09:56 AM Nov 2017

A pleasant dream for 2018...Impeaching Trump's judges

from dailykos (Joan McCarter) https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/24/1716475/-The-potential-case-for-impeachment-this-time-of-Trump-s-judges


"All of this to put a reminder out there for Democrats who might just be winning a majority in 2018: federal justices, including Supreme Court ones, can be impeached. It's happened before and it can happen again. Particularly if the president who appointed them turns out to have won his office illegitimately—like, say, through the machinations of a foreign power."

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A pleasant dream for 2018...Impeaching Trump's judges (Original Post) bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 OP
They are installed by an illegitimate president. dalton99a Nov 2017 #1
With due respect, missing the point. no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #2
Neither I, nor the author stated or implied they were automatically bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #4
Of course they were selected by the Trump administration specifically for their no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #6
How many in Congress are on the Russian payroll too? nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #15
That's always possible. no_hypocrisy Nov 2017 #17
It is fact. We know that Ryan and McConnell took millions from Russian oligarchs. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #18
Should be called "The scumbag list". dmosh42 Nov 2017 #3
Dream on Joan lunasun Nov 2017 #5
If appointed by Trump, at least half of them are corrupt. nt oasis Nov 2017 #7
Biddy counting is Bugger! Cryptoad Nov 2017 #8
Especially ones the American Bar Assoc. deemed unfit. Greybnk48 Nov 2017 #9
This would be huge mentalslavery Nov 2017 #10
Actually, I think removing them might be possible if we get majority in the Senate. lark Nov 2017 #11
No. onenote Nov 2017 #14
FFS -- Complete fantasy onenote Nov 2017 #12
Certainly, Gorsuch can be removed rock Nov 2017 #13
He wont, though. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #19
and once the Trump judges are purged, Thunderbeast Nov 2017 #16
I wonder if gorsuch can be removed AlexSFCA Nov 2017 #20
Yes, generally speaking rock Nov 2017 #21

no_hypocrisy

(46,201 posts)
2. With due respect, missing the point.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:17 AM
Nov 2017

They were APPROVED by the Senate. They didn't automatically become judges because of Donald Trump as President.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
4. Neither I, nor the author stated or implied they were automatically
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:22 AM
Nov 2017

installed by Trump. Do you disagree that the Trump administration and the GOP were behind them despite their low qualifications?

no_hypocrisy

(46,201 posts)
6. Of course they were selected by the Trump administration specifically for their
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 10:27 AM
Nov 2017

ineptness and chauvinism toward the Trump/GOP/Koch agenda.

Irish_Dem

(47,445 posts)
18. It is fact. We know that Ryan and McConnell took millions from Russian oligarchs.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 12:44 PM
Nov 2017

That is why they turn a blind eye to Trump being part of the Russian mob.

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
9. Especially ones the American Bar Assoc. deemed unfit.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:07 AM
Nov 2017

They can be argued to be purely political and should not have been seated. I agree bagelsforbreakfast, and I don't think it's a pipe dream.

 

mentalslavery

(463 posts)
10. This would be huge
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:22 AM
Nov 2017

I have been a little worried about impeachment because of who might take his place, but getting rid of the judges might be worth the risk. Course, we would need a block on power first.....

lark

(23,158 posts)
11. Actually, I think removing them might be possible if we get majority in the Senate.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:35 AM
Nov 2017

If they pass a law and make it that any federal judge who is rated as "not qualified" by the bar and promoted anyway can be removed based on majority vote. this is just off the top of my head, and I'm not a constitutional lawyer, so legal folks, could this work?

onenote

(42,768 posts)
14. No.
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:45 AM
Nov 2017

The Constitution is clear:"The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office."

The one and only way to remove a judge is through impeachment based on their violation of the standard of "good behaviour".

onenote

(42,768 posts)
12. FFS -- Complete fantasy
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 11:43 AM
Nov 2017

Yes, judges, including Supreme Court Justices can be impeached.

But it takes 2/3 vote in the Senate. If we hold onto every Democratic seat that up for grabs in 2018 AND won every single Repub seat that is up, we'd still be 11 Senate votes shy of 2/3.

Plus, despite what folks with little perception of reality might wish, the House isn't going to impeach duly confirmed judges simply because of was the president that nominated them.

Not. Going. To. Happen.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
20. I wonder if gorsuch can be removed
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 12:50 PM
Nov 2017

based on the fact that he was unconstitutionally nominated. Garland was nominated by Obama and congress violated US Constitution by not scheduling a hearing.

rock

(13,218 posts)
21. Yes, generally speaking
Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:58 PM
Nov 2017

All that is required to remove congress member or judge is political will. A careful reading of the Constitution shows that it does not require an objectively provable reason, just that the House has agreed that the person in question has committed a high crime or misdemeanor (both unspecified), that is, a subjective call.

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