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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeth Abramson, for those keeping track...
I have a FB friend who is posting these updates...
This is a live, breaking thread by Seth Abramson. I will update as he continues to post.
CONFIRMED: The Kremlin got involved with Konstantin Rykov's online ventures at exactly the point Rykov says his plot to help elect Trump (with the assistance of Cambridge Analytica and WikiLeaks) began. And Trump's connected to Rykov's pal, Artem Klyushin.
2/ With this news, the plot to steal the 2016 presidential election is now fully revealed: the who, when, and how.
It's just a question of the U.S. media reporting on it (in advance of Bob Mueller informing us, several months from now, that he already has all this information).
3/ What we now know is that the Trump campaign's point of contact with Russian conspirators was Trump himself, and in fact it predated Trump's June 16, 2015 campaign launch by exactly 2 years. It began in Las Vegas on June 16, 2013, with a follow-up on November 9, 2013 in Moscow.
4/ Trump was aware, as of November 9, 2013at the latestthat he would receive some sort of clandestine Russian assistance when he ran for president (a run the Russians knew about before anyone in America). He may or may not have known what sort of assistance Russia would offer.
5/ Given tech-whiz Rykov's self-admitted involvement, Trump wouldn't have been surprised when he first learned of Russian electoral-infrastructure hacking, propaganda/psy-ops and computer crimes involving the DNC and Hillary Clinton. His Russia policy was designed to reward them.
6/ The president knowingly aided and abetted crimes against the United States in order to secure Russian assistance with his presidential bid. His part in the conspiracy was to pre-promise Russia the enormous financial/political windfall of a unilateral lifting of U.S. sanctions.
7/ Flynn almost certainly knows all of this, which means if he's signed a deal with Mueller, it's only a matter of time before the true circumstances of Trump's campaign and election (including the actions of Sessions, Trump Jr., Manafort and others) become internationally known.
8/ What's not yet clear is whether top Trump aides like Papadopoulos, Clovis, Page, or Gordon knew about Trump's 2013 contacts with Russian conspirators. They may not have. But Trump used them to to stay in touch with the Russians and reassure them on his 2013 policy promises.
9/ I can't keep repeating all the evidencealmost all of which is from public reportingthat got us to this point. Please see the last two weeks of my feed for all the details substantiating the summary I've offered here. The elements of this narrative are reliably substantiated.
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Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)I literally couldnt believe my eyes when I first saw it.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Isn't he afraid that the Russians will find a way to get back at him if he doesn't? He has been careful not to say anything against them, but surely they want more than that. If he's not going to deliver, they're not just going to take it lying down.
Or has he done what they expected of him already, and I missed it?
AJT
(5,240 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Its fucking unbelievable.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,659 posts)The Atlantic article sets the stage, but doesn't provide links between Milner and Trump.
Abramson's says he doesn't want to keep repeating the evidence, but he should at least link to a summary if he wants to be taken seriously...
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,199 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Did you try that?
And. have you always found The Atlantic a questionable source of information and reporting?