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lindysalsagal

(20,713 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:55 AM Nov 2017

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle To Marry In Spring: An american in the royal family!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-to-marry-in-spring

After a weekend of frenzied speculation, it was announced this morning that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will marry in the spring of next year.

The couple will live in London at Nottingham Cottage, Harry's home in the grounds of Kensington Palace.
arkle is a divorcee. She is 36 and Harry is 33. But it is the fact that she identifies as mixed race (she is the daughter of a white father and an African-American mother) that will mark the most notable step forward for the hitherto all-white British Royal family.


Theoretically, (but most unlikely) an american (Harry's child) could wind up ruling the british royal family!

The brits have gotta be piiiiiiiiised!!!!!
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle To Marry In Spring: An american in the royal family! (Original Post) lindysalsagal Nov 2017 OP
Harry is not close to the throne... FarPoint Nov 2017 #1
Yea, especially considering his older brother is having a third child. LisaL Nov 2017 #2
Yes.... FarPoint Nov 2017 #6
True, But RobinA Nov 2017 #10
This is big for the royals. Lunabell Nov 2017 #3
I'm not aware of any Brits being pissed off about it. TubbersUK Nov 2017 #4
Some of the comments are ugly and unnecessary! Just take a glance mfcorey1 Nov 2017 #7
In a tRump world... FarPoint Nov 2017 #12
Racism...as the bride is half black HipChick Nov 2017 #18
The Daily Mail is basically the print UK version of FOX. Kentonio Nov 2017 #20
I promise not to lift quotes from Free Republic, and claim it shows "Americans are ..." Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #39
I adore Harry and am thrilled for him and Ms. Markle! Congratulations:) Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #5
Love will trump racism Achilleaze Nov 2017 #8
The goons continue breeding and teaching racism to their offspring. Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #28
My entire family is English. cwydro Nov 2017 #9
lol I was scrolling down thread to DURHAM D Nov 2017 #14
Lol! cwydro Nov 2017 #15
Lovely couple get the red out Nov 2017 #11
When I see photos of them they look Bettie Nov 2017 #13
Mazel tov shenmue Nov 2017 #16
I would love it if they would invite Barack and Michelle Obama avebury Nov 2017 #17
No invite for Trump...he will make it about him.. HipChick Nov 2017 #19
I don't see Meghan being the feminist that she is would avebury Nov 2017 #21
He will proactively turn down the invitation HipChick Nov 2017 #22
I can't see him inviting the Trumps. SummerSnow Nov 2017 #30
Oh please, do not let them invite Trump! He will ruin their day. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #35
Harry's child won't be an American DavidDvorkin Nov 2017 #23
British with American mother.. HipChick Nov 2017 #26
Irrelevant. DavidDvorkin Nov 2017 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #27
Winston Churchill was British DavidDvorkin Nov 2017 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #34
Ask Boris.. HipChick Nov 2017 #36
Good choice Harry... Baconator Nov 2017 #24
Shes gorgeous AND does tons of charity/philanthropy work. Reminds me of young Jennifer Beals anneboleyn Nov 2017 #29
They don't seem pissed at all. EffieBlack Nov 2017 #25
Is this how we got Liz 10 (Doctor Who)? j/k area51 Nov 2017 #31
And a Catholic too. Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #37
The royal family is descended from Queen Charlotte, who was black, so tblue37 Nov 2017 #38
"black" is not really descriptive of Charlotte; "might have had a remote black ancestor" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #40
Actually, some contemporary paintings showed her to look decidedly mixed race, but in tblue37 Nov 2017 #42
But, given that her ancestry, as a member of European royalty, was well known muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #43
Harry has an American ancestor DavidDvorkin Nov 2017 #41

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
2. Yea, especially considering his older brother is having a third child.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:32 AM
Nov 2017

All these children would inherit the throne prior to Harry and any offspring he might have.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
10. True, But
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:17 AM
Nov 2017

history is full of kings and queens who were seemingly "not close to the throne." Granted, they don't off large swaths of their families these days in order to BECOME closer to the throne, but never say never!

TubbersUK

(1,439 posts)
4. I'm not aware of any Brits being pissed off about it.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:06 AM
Nov 2017

Among those that have any sort of view, all seem quietly pleased for him.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
7. Some of the comments are ugly and unnecessary! Just take a glance
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:17 AM
Nov 2017

Last edited Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)

at the Daily "rag" Mail!

FarPoint

(12,417 posts)
12. In a tRump world...
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:36 AM
Nov 2017

We see hate being the common denominator....I believe we need more people like the British Royals to lead the way away from hate, by example.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
20. The Daily Mail is basically the print UK version of FOX.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:00 PM
Nov 2017

It's a despicable peice of xenophobic and racist crap aimed at the worst sections of British society.

Denzil_DC

(7,246 posts)
39. I promise not to lift quotes from Free Republic, and claim it shows "Americans are ..."
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 06:47 PM
Nov 2017

if you'll apply the same benchmark for the Mail comment section on any issue!

In my experience, those DUers who bother to comment on the doings of the royal family are much more royalist than the folks I as a Brit living in the UK encounter every day.

On the other hand, if this gets the right-wingers in the Mail's comment section and elsewhere frothing and spitting, maybe it'll hasten their demises, so I'm cool with that, and I'll raise a glass to the happy couple on that basis.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. Love will trump racism
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:24 AM
Nov 2017

...eventually.

People falling in love with each other - no matter their color, nationality, or belief system - and bringing children into the world out of their love, will eventually render racism as a skanky, stanky, pititful, degenerate, anacronistic, immoral mindkink for just a handful of remaining lowlife, fear-saturated morons.

How many decades or centuries will this process take? republicans are doing their best to empower hateful racism. But inevitably they will be revealed as losers.

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
28. The goons continue breeding and teaching racism to their offspring.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:29 PM
Nov 2017

My opinion is 35-40% of the world's population always has been and always will be repugnant.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
9. My entire family is English.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:58 AM
Nov 2017

They all think it’s great!

Btw...small point - “pissed” in England means drunk lol.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
14. lol I was scrolling down thread to
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:00 AM
Nov 2017

see if anyone pointed this (pissed) out. Thanks for taking care of business.

Bettie

(16,117 posts)
13. When I see photos of them they look
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 09:39 AM
Nov 2017

very happy, like they are having fun. That's good and I wish them the best (as I do most couples when they marry).

avebury

(10,952 posts)
17. I would love it if they would invite Barack and Michelle Obama
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 10:41 AM
Nov 2017

to their wedding. Michelle has worked with Prince Harry on the Invictus Games and appear to have a friendly relationship.

As a bonus, it would burn Trump in the worst way to be left out of the cool kids table once again.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
21. I don't see Meghan being the feminist that she is would
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:20 PM
Nov 2017

ever agree to invite Trump. She has spoken out against him.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. Oh please, do not let them invite Trump! He will ruin their day.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 03:47 PM
Nov 2017

I am sure of it. He would find a way to make it all about him and distract from the couple. Besides, the English hate him as much if not more than we do.

Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #23)

DavidDvorkin

(19,480 posts)
32. Winston Churchill was British
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:26 PM
Nov 2017

Even though his mother was American.

I'm an immigrant with dual citizenship. My son, born here, is American.

That's the reality.

Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #32)

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
29. Shes gorgeous AND does tons of charity/philanthropy work. Reminds me of young Jennifer Beals
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:59 PM
Nov 2017

As in the Jennifer Beals circa Flashdance (Beals was also excellent in the L Word, and she is still a gorgeous woman now in her fifties). Beals also has a white father and African-American mother as does the English actress Rebecca Hall whose mother is African-American. All beautiful indeed. I also admire Meghan’s extensive philanthropic work. She will be a great wife for Harry as so many of the royal duties involve work with charities, and she is clearly not only capable of participating in these tasks but taking it to a whole new level. I am also happy to see the deplorables going out of their minds over this...

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
38. The royal family is descended from Queen Charlotte, who was black, so
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 05:22 PM
Nov 2017

"the hitherto all-white British Royal family" is simply not true.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,339 posts)
40. "black" is not really descriptive of Charlotte; "might have had a remote black ancestor"
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 07:49 PM
Nov 2017

would be nearer the mark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_of_Mecklenburg-Strelitz#Ancestry

" Queen Charlotte's African contribution could have been inherited three to six times over from one ancestor nine generations removed, Margarida de Castro e Sousa, a 15th-century Portuguese noblewoman, who traced her ancestry to King Afonso III of Portugal (1210–1279) and one of his mistresses, Madragana "

At nine generations back, you have 512 ancestors if none of the branches ever rejoined. So even if it's 6 times, that's about 1% of her ancestry - from someone who was herself 6 generations from the 'Moorish' Madragana.

tblue37

(65,457 posts)
42. Actually, some contemporary paintings showed her to look decidedly mixed race, but in
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:18 PM
Nov 2017

a way that would be considered black by most people. According to many articles I've seen, the paintings that did not disguise features that manifested her African ancestry were kept tucked away, while those that "whitewashed" her were displayed prominently.

It's hard to know for sure now, but I would not be surprised if she did not look as lily white as the current members of the royal family do.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,339 posts)
43. But, given that her ancestry, as a member of European royalty, was well known
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 08:31 PM
Nov 2017

it would seem far more likely that those paintings just weren't very accurate. Which, of course, might explain why they weren't the ones displayed.

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