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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:52 AM Nov 2017

If you are sexually assaulted in a massage facility - Call 911!

Yell "Stop!" at the top of your lungs. Get off the massage table, grab your clothes and leave the room. Call 911 from your cell phone. Report the assault, dress quickly, leave the facility, and meet the police officer who responds outside the door of the place. Don't leave the area until the police respond.

Take charge of your personal safety. Report crimes against your person and follow through.

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If you are sexually assaulted in a massage facility - Call 911! (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2017 OP
What provoked this PSA? The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #1
The news reports about sexual assaults at Massage Envy locations. MineralMan Nov 2017 #3
Thanks. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #4
OK. Thanks. lpbk2713 Nov 2017 #2
As a male massage Therapist .... SarasotaDem Nov 2017 #5
You're right. It's a real problem. MineralMan Nov 2017 #6
yes SarasotaDem Nov 2017 #7
(not saying it's right) Getting away politely is often the best bet to ensure your physical safety. Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #8
Good advice...I can't imagine folks being giving free passes HipChick Nov 2017 #9
This advice actually makes it harder for people who have been assaulted to respond. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2017 #10
Why would this not apply to any other instance of sexual assault? brooklynite Nov 2017 #11
I would think it should. People should get to safety and then MineralMan Nov 2017 #12

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
3. The news reports about sexual assaults at Massage Envy locations.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 11:57 AM
Nov 2017

There are a couple of threads on the GD thread list today. In the stories, the victims all went home and called Massage Envy to report the assaults. Then, they were put off by the person who answered, who wanted them to return to "discuss their experience."

That's bullshit! Report sexual assaults directly to the police immediately, and from the vicinity of the facility. Don't wait. Don't take excuses. Just call 911.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,792 posts)
4. Thanks.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:01 PM
Nov 2017

Yeah, if I got messed with during a massage I don't think I'd wait to go home to report it. I'm raising holy hell and calling 911.

SarasotaDem

(217 posts)
5. As a male massage Therapist ....
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:18 PM
Nov 2017

Practicing for over 20 years ....I agree.

The profession has enough trouble not being
associated with prostitution already

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
6. You're right. It's a real problem.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 12:51 PM
Nov 2017

Many men, apparently, expect some sexual activity, which also leads to serious problems for many massage therapists. Perhaps even some women are looking for that. I don't know.

I'm not a massage patron, though, so I don't know the protocols at massage places.

I do know that it's probably not a good idea to select a Tantric Massage, if that's on the menu of available services. That is bound to lead to misunderstandings of some sort.

Corvo Bianco

(1,148 posts)
8. (not saying it's right) Getting away politely is often the best bet to ensure your physical safety.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 01:44 PM
Nov 2017

And for a lot of women, the necessary reaction is to protect ourselves from the perp in front of us. This summer I was confronted in my home by a neighborhood creeper with suspect intentions. Instinct kicked in and told me to keep the trespasser calm (when you're one-on-one against someone 5x more powerful, rousing his rage seems like a really bad idea).

To your point, once around other people I'll call the cops, if this massage assault ever happens to me

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,382 posts)
10. This advice actually makes it harder for people who have been assaulted to respond.
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:02 PM
Nov 2017

Pretending there's only one valid response disregards the reality of people who have been sexually assaulted. Many times it's unclear whether it's safe to react as you advise, even in the specific situation you set. Expecting police response if you say a dude pressed his dick on you while giving you a massage is, frankly, laughable. Freezing or going numb during sexual assault is a common response and your exhortation to REACT HARDER is unhelpful. I encourage you to read more about how people tend to react to sexual assault and stop making blanket recommendations.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
12. I would think it should. People should get to safety and then
Mon Nov 27, 2017, 02:18 PM
Nov 2017

call 911 if they have been sexually assaulted. I realize that's not always easy to do, but it's the best plan, I believe.

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