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kentuck

(111,110 posts) Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:15 PM Dec 2017

For the first time in a long time, I feel a bit of optimism.

I believe that General Flynn has told everything he knows about Donald Trump and the Russians. Why do I believe that?

In his statement, he mentioned his long military record, his family, and his "country". In my opinion, that was very significant.

I think Mueller was able to appeal to his patriotism.

And Flynn knows a lot about Trump and his Russian dealings, in my opinion. He knows all the players. He knows about the money-laundering. He knows about the real estate deals. He knows about the Russian crime family and the role of Vladimir Putin. He knows of potential deals between Donald Trump and Putin. He knows a lot and he has spilled it all to Robert Mueller.

Much of what he knows is probably related to national security and will not be made public. However, those closest to Donald Trump will not be sleeping well for the next few nights. Donald Jr and Jared may want to put in an extra order for some butt plugs...

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For the first time in a long time, I feel a bit of optimism. (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2017 OP

Yes MFM008 Dec 2017 #1

I'm hopeful, too, my friend Maeve Dec 2017 #2

I'm really hoping this is the real deal. kentuck Dec 2017 #14

Apparently what he has been charged with is probably the least of his The_Casual_Observer Dec 2017 #3

Go to Huffpo front page: FLYNNTER IS COMING hlthe2b Dec 2017 #4

Me too! Was just thinking that a few minutes ago. KPN Dec 2017 #5

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2017 #6

Agree. I think Flynn has also seen the pee tape. What other reason could there be for rzemanfl Dec 2017 #9

Jared and Ivanka have been talking about moving back to NY... kentuck Dec 2017 #16

You are too kind. It wasn't his patriotism that made him flip. janx Dec 2017 #7

Also, himself. KPN Dec 2017 #8

I'm not. Dem2 Dec 2017 #10

10-4, kentuck - we can almost breathe today, eh? And I so very much agree that Flynn is the Leghorn21 Dec 2017 #11

Thanks! kentuck Dec 2017 #13

I have "cautious optimism." Miles Archer Dec 2017 #12

Don't. This tax bill is EVIL and they're on the verge of passing it. We shouldn't be distracted pnwmom Dec 2017 #15

I think the tax bill was going to pass regardless... kentuck Dec 2017 #17

We shouldn't give up on calling till the vote is done. It hasn't happened yet. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #18

Second thing I saw after talking to a friend in ICU while he was on the loo. Doreen Dec 2017 #19

MFM008

(19,820 posts)

1. Yes

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:17 PM

Dec 2017

Those 2 are in the cross hairs for sure.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)

2. I'm hopeful, too, my friend

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:19 PM

Dec 2017

It's been rough lately and the fights over tax deform and net neutrality continue, but Flynn could be the key to bringing the House of Cads down.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

14. I'm really hoping this is the real deal.

Reply to Maeve (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:43 PM

Dec 2017

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)

3. Apparently what he has been charged with is probably the least of his

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:19 PM

Dec 2017

crimes. I would guess he is going to spill a lot of bad shit now.

hlthe2b

(102,376 posts)

4. Go to Huffpo front page: FLYNNTER IS COMING

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:21 PM

Dec 2017

LOL

cleaver

KPN

(15,650 posts)

5. Me too! Was just thinking that a few minutes ago.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:21 PM

Dec 2017

I do hope this goes to Jr. and/or Kushner at least, and doesn't end with Manafort. 45 is guilty and we need to get HIM for it; not let him slither away free and clean.

On the upside, Manafort's already indicted so Mueller must think he has enough on him -- which would only bode well re: Jr., Kushner and daddy.

H2O Man

(73,622 posts)

6. Recommended.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:22 PM

Dec 2017

Flynn has squealed on Jared, Junior, and Trump. This is why Mr. Mueller's team recently interviewed Jared. They nailed down Jared's statements on activities he and Flynn engaged in. Kushner's lawyer erred in allowing Jared to speak to them.

rzemanfl

(29,569 posts)

9. Agree. I think Flynn has also seen the pee tape. What other reason could there be for

Reply to H2O Man (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:24 PM

Dec 2017

Drumpf to now be claiming the "Access Hollywood" tape was fake?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

16. Jared and Ivanka have been talking about moving back to NY...

Reply to H2O Man (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:45 PM

Dec 2017

They know something is going down.

janx

(24,128 posts)

7. You are too kind. It wasn't his patriotism that made him flip.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:22 PM

Dec 2017

It was what might happen to his son.

KPN

(15,650 posts)

8. Also, himself.

Reply to janx (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:24 PM

Dec 2017

Sort of like Lauer in a way. "I'm really a good person who made a mistake."

Dem2

(8,168 posts)

10. I'm not.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:25 PM

Dec 2017

But ever since Fitzmas and other events like that, to me the proof will be in the pudding

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)

11. 10-4, kentuck - we can almost breathe today, eh? And I so very much agree that Flynn is the

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:26 PM

Dec 2017

one guy who knows exactly how some really important "dots" connect to other "dots" -

Do you remember how desperately LOSER45 missed him, pined for him after Mike left the WH? Sent him a text - after being admonished to have NO CONTACT - sent him a text saying, "Stay strong!" - they really are deeply connected, and dft knows that Mikey knows that dft knows etc etc...

Hey, kentuck - Stay strong!

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

13. Thanks!

Reply to Leghorn21 (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:35 PM

Dec 2017

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)

12. I have "cautious optimism."

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:27 PM

Dec 2017

Flynn's moves clearly show he's not going to take a hit for Trump. If he throws Trump (and his extended family) under the bus, there will be no pardon. I think he's smart enough to know that on his own, and just in case he's not, I'm sure Mr. Mueller pointed that out to him.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)

15. Don't. This tax bill is EVIL and they're on the verge of passing it. We shouldn't be distracted

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:44 PM

Dec 2017

by this shiny Flynn thing.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

17. I think the tax bill was going to pass regardless...

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:47 PM

Dec 2017

of what happened with Flynn. We have to take our victories wherever we can find them.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)

18. We shouldn't give up on calling till the vote is done. It hasn't happened yet. n/t

Reply to kentuck (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 02:49 PM

Dec 2017

Doreen

(11,686 posts)

19. Second thing I saw after talking to a friend in ICU while he was on the loo.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 03:51 PM

Dec 2017

I am now having a good day. I am smiling happily for the first time since the 5th of November.

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