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Calculating

(2,957 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 08:19 PM Dec 2017

The OWS movement was correct all along

There's clearly an overall plan in this country to continue stripping the working class of all they have in order to funnel money up to the 1%. Seems like we need a new movement similar to OWS, only this time they need more mainstream support and leadership. We aren't gonna change things with some hippies and anarchists camping out in the park for a few weeks. If we want change it will take mainstream protests like those seen in the 1960's. Only this time it isn't gonna be about racial inequality, but about economic and wealth inequality.

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The OWS movement was correct all along (Original Post) Calculating Dec 2017 OP
It's called the mainstream for a reason The_Casual_Observer Dec 2017 #1
Yes there will be a mass movement standingtall Dec 2017 #2
You are right. It just hasn't gotten bad enough yet. hadEnuf Dec 2017 #5
Yep and it's going to happen. Already is. I have seen the homeless in my town at least double. notdarkyet Dec 2017 #19
"I'm a Depression historian ... the tax bill is straight out of 1929" keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #22
I've always said if you want people marching in the streets turn off their cable tv TeamPooka Dec 2017 #4
True , there are alot of people who are kacekwl Dec 2017 #6
Take away the internet and there will be anarchy in under a week Calculating Dec 2017 #11
The problem is that OWS basically WAS "hippies and anarchists camping out in the park" brooklynite Dec 2017 #3
Who speaks to the common man? keithbvadu2 Dec 2017 #7
Nice one lol Calculating Dec 2017 #10
. Oneironaut Dec 2017 #21
It's probably gonna take not fooled Dec 2017 #8
It's on the way because mdbl Dec 2017 #12
my uncle from NYC told me their is a far right cabal that is all out looking to destroy pansypoo53219 Dec 2017 #9
Yes not fooled Dec 2017 #20
OWS means Occupy Wall Street, correct? JHB Dec 2017 #13
You beat me to it, JHB! /nt dobleremolque Dec 2017 #15
What do the initials OWS stand for? dobleremolque Dec 2017 #14
+1 JHB Dec 2017 #17
OWS was a big topic here when it was happening. Lucky Luciano Dec 2017 #18
OWS sparked off "Uncut" in Britain protesting outside Apple Stores at Corps dodging taxes stuffmatters Dec 2017 #16
I really admired Occupy Wall Street lexington filly Dec 2017 #23
 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
1. It's called the mainstream for a reason
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 08:50 PM
Dec 2017

This country is basted in fox news and other shit and lives pay check to paycheck for the most part. Do you think there is going to ever be a mass movement when the populace spends most of their free time watching sports and dancing with the stars?
Movements are laughed at by the MSM and treated badly by the cops.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
2. Yes there will be a mass movement
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:01 PM
Dec 2017

when the populace isn't spending most of their free time watching sports or dancing with the stars, because they will no longer be able to afford roofs over their heads or TV's to watch. We are not there yet,but that is where this is headed if we don't reverse course.

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
5. You are right. It just hasn't gotten bad enough yet.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:36 PM
Dec 2017

It took Hoovervilles, soup lines and rampant unemployment to wake up Americans in the 1930's and they also didn't have the saturating propaganda propaganda like we do now.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
19. Yep and it's going to happen. Already is. I have seen the homeless in my town at least double.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:22 PM
Dec 2017

In the last year. My daughter said the same about where she lives. Rents have gone sky high and many can't afford them. Check out your local food banks. Lines are long and the churches and charity groups run out of boxes before they are done. People give more this time of year and there are food drives everywhere you go. Most of us understand the need is great and is going to get worse . Reading Howard Zinns People's History of America, opened my eyes. During the depression these groups could not meet the massive needs confronting them, and all shut down within two years of the beginning of the depression. This is why a social safety net was created in the first place, and the repigs and trump are trying to demolish it. They want to get rid of FS altogether. They just cut them, some by a lot, the last couple months. Are you ready to see your fellow Americans having bread riots and living in trumpvilles. I wonder if he will be proud to see his name on these erections? I found it interesting that in our history we have burnt and destroyed many a mansion. The 1% know how we feel about them. Why do you think Devoss and Zinke need so much protection.

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
22. "I'm a Depression historian ... the tax bill is straight out of 1929"
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:34 PM
Dec 2017

(a previous DU forum)

I'm a Depression historian ... the tax bill is straight out of 1929

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029914800

TeamPooka

(24,254 posts)
4. I've always said if you want people marching in the streets turn off their cable tv
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:21 PM
Dec 2017

but now that everyone is online you have to unplug the internet instead.

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
6. True , there are alot of people who are
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:36 PM
Dec 2017

Going to and from work listening to music and watching Netflix at home who really never consume any news at all.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
3. The problem is that OWS basically WAS "hippies and anarchists camping out in the park"
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:03 PM
Dec 2017

I respect the concerns they raised; but broadly speaking, their choice was to forego the political process ("both sides are to blame&quot and create their own miniature ideal society. At the end of the day, they still have to live in the same country with the rest of us.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
8. It's probably gonna take
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:51 PM
Dec 2017

a major deprssion and/or world war to wake up 'Muricans. Now that they are likely to get their tax cuts, the oligarchy will dial it down for a while so that the frogs go back to not noticing the water temperature rising.

pansypoo53219

(20,995 posts)
9. my uncle from NYC told me their is a far right cabal that is all out looking to destroy
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:20 PM
Dec 2017

democracy. started by some college professor who is dead, some researcher stubled on the game plan. need the name. buchanan i think. CAN YOU SAY RUSSIA?

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
20. Yes
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:24 PM
Dec 2017

I think you're referring to the book "Democracy In Chains" by history professor Nancy MacLean.

And yeah, the oligarchs don't like democracy. Over the last few decades they have been steadily eroding the right to vote and the right to be represented and have your voice heard in Washington (or at any level of government) if you are a non-wealthy citizen.


We already live in a de facto plutocracy, as the Senate vote last night on the tax scam showed.



JHB

(37,161 posts)
13. OWS means Occupy Wall Street, correct?
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:50 PM
Dec 2017

Like most people, I failed "mind reading" in junior high, and know bags and bags of three letter abbreviations, but I'm betting this isn't about the Ontario Weather Service.

dobleremolque

(492 posts)
14. What do the initials OWS stand for?
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:53 PM
Dec 2017

Oh What Shit?
Own Woolen Scarves?
Our Washington Stinks?

First rule of clear writing (and of good journalism, too ... per Chicago Manual of Style)

1. When writing about an entity or organization spell out the full name of the entity on the first reference with the acronym or initials beside it in parenthesis. Then in subsequent mentions, use the acronym or the initials. i.e. North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO); United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO); and even ... Democratic National Committee (DNC), etc. etc.

After reading the post and all the comments so far, I'm going to guess OWS means Occupy Wall Street in this instance, but there's no real way to be sure, is there?

Internal jargon happens way too much on Democratic Underground (DU), in my humble opinion (IMHO.)

/end clear writing rant (ECWR)/

Lucky Luciano

(11,258 posts)
18. OWS was a big topic here when it was happening.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:05 PM
Dec 2017

So...yeah...people are used to it being spoken about and who wants to write out the whole thing - especially on a mobile device!

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
16. OWS sparked off "Uncut" in Britain protesting outside Apple Stores at Corps dodging taxes
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:57 PM
Dec 2017

They told people going in and out of Apple stores how much $ exactly Apple was cheating their community school by not paying taxes.

lexington filly

(239 posts)
23. I really admired Occupy Wall Street
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:36 PM
Dec 2017

and appreciated them trying to do something about the harmful status quo. I see the problem as being that the rest of us didn't join them in trying to create change. We sat back in a wait-and-see posture. We could have helped spread the movement. Lastly, I like hippies. A lot.

And yes, we need a coast to coast movement. Young and old, of all colors and white, and straight and LGBT!

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