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ffr

(22,671 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:34 PM Dec 2017

Newly revealed email from tRump transition could be the smoking gun

A paper trail reportedly shows the tRump team sought to reward Russia for its help electing tRump.



A key aide in the tRump transition appeared to write in an email that tRump should seek to ease sanctions on Russia because that country had helped tRump win the election.

The aide, K. T. McFarland, currently the nominee to be the next United States Ambassador to Singapore, wrote on December 29 that sanctions imposed by the Obama administration were undesirable, according to a report by the New York Times. McFarland explained that tRump was seeking to improve relations with Russia “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him.”

Taken on its face, the email appears to describe a quid pro quo transaction where relaxed sanctions were exchanged for Russia’s help in winning the presidency.
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Overall, the emails obtained by the New York Times show the effort to influence U.S. foreign policy with Russia prior to [tRump’s] inauguration extended far beyond Gen. Michael Flynn. - ThinkProgress
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Newly revealed email from tRump transition could be the smoking gun (Original Post) ffr Dec 2017 OP
But... whose email??? Blue Owl Dec 2017 #1
Such the perfectionist. ffr Dec 2017 #3
K. T. McFarland's email n/t Yonnie3 Dec 2017 #6
That's exactly how I read it. That Russia threw the election to trump. shraby Dec 2017 #2
That last paragraph should say Trump's inauguration.... magicarpet Dec 2017 #4
noted you correction. leanforward Dec 2017 #9
Their House of Cards is falling. Felons are singing. Evidence is mounting. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #5
It is the smoking gun, no way to explain this uponit7771 Dec 2017 #7
To make more sense . . . leanforward Dec 2017 #8
I think to two of you above are correct. ffr Dec 2017 #10
Not really greeny2323 Dec 2017 #11
I don't really see how the longer version changes the meaning. Squinch Dec 2017 #12
Intent greeny2323 Dec 2017 #13
She may be claiming that, but it doesn't read that way. In fact it reads worse Squinch Dec 2017 #14
No greeny2323 Dec 2017 #15
Nope. She's saying Obama is getting in the way of their paying back the favor of Russia throwing Squinch Dec 2017 #16
Or rather yes on that point. And if they are assuming Obama is gaming them by Squinch Dec 2017 #17
I don't know. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #18

magicarpet

(14,167 posts)
4. That last paragraph should say Trump's inauguration....
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:41 PM
Dec 2017

It incorrectly says Obama's inauguration.

It was Obama's resignation at the end of his 8 year term.

leanforward

(1,077 posts)
8. To make more sense . . .
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:44 PM
Dec 2017

should ". to Obama's inauguration ." read "Trump's inauguration"?

To me, in the context above, is there a misprint?

Note: in the past year, this is the first time I have spelled the fool's name in the white house correctly.

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
11. Not really
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 09:49 PM
Dec 2017

That is really not the most reasonable interpretation of Mcfarland's email.

And here is the fuller quote from the email. Scroll down a bit:


 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
13. Intent
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:11 PM
Dec 2017

I'm not saying the email isn't damning. It shows they were consumed with Russia, while all this time they were saying they had no communications.

But she's claiming that Obama is boxing them in because if they object to the sanctions it might make people wonder if there was a quid pro quo.

She's not claiming in this email that she knows Russia helped them win the election.

Squinch

(51,000 posts)
14. She may be claiming that, but it doesn't read that way. In fact it reads worse
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:10 PM
Dec 2017

in the longer version because it adds the part about releasing something that catches Russia red-handed.

This means they acknowledge that there was some "red-handed" Russian thing to release.

I think the point of the "tit for tat" escalation line is that Obama is creating that "tit for tat" scenario and that makes it hard for Donald to pay the Russians back for their favor.

The interpretation these tweets are pushing doesn't make sense. It's not what is being said.

 

greeny2323

(590 posts)
15. No
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:13 PM
Dec 2017

She's surmising that Obama might be gaming them and holding back evidence until after Trump responds.

Squinch

(51,000 posts)
16. Nope. She's saying Obama is getting in the way of their paying back the favor of Russia throwing
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:14 PM
Dec 2017

the election to Trump.

Squinch

(51,000 posts)
17. Or rather yes on that point. And if they are assuming Obama is gaming them by
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:16 PM
Dec 2017

holding back evidence, that means they know evidence exists.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. I don't know.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:46 AM
Dec 2017

I don't know what that person meant exactly. But it's not good for Trump.

But those people are paranoid, if they think Obama passed sanctions against Russia to box Trump in. They think everyone is like they are. I doubt Obama would play around with U S foreign policy just for the sake of irritating Trump or trying to damage his Presidency. Obama's a pretty ethical person, as well as a patriot. He was also on the way out, wrapping things up, and looking forward to his freedom.

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