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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:53 AM Dec 2017

My own review of the individual tax prosions in the Senate bill

Moving the married standard deduction to $24,800 and the child tax credit to $2000 per child seems to have eliminated the tax increase on "married with kids" households.

BUT:

For a two-kid family. there is no extra tax benefit under the new plan for those making $36900 a year or less.

AND

The taxes those households (and on up to at least $55K) pay up front INCREASE (because the personal exemptions get canned) and then they have to wait to file to get the taxes paid back! So much for "more in your paycheck". Maybe on Wall Street...

(edit: This is about those who never did itemize deductions. Those who were doing so WILL get hurt if the "kill many itemized deductions" is enacted.)

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still_one

(92,382 posts)
1. For couples who currently itemizes, the elimination of the 8100 personal exemption, elimination of
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:21 AM
Dec 2017

the interest on Home Equity loans, and elimination of the deduction of state income tax, will mean those people will either not realize any tax cut, or will be paying more taxes, some significantly more.

If someone currently has 22,000 dollars in itemized deductions, under the Senate plan they will take the standard deduction of 24000, but because of the elimination of the personal exemption be taxed on income that is 6000 dollars higher than it would have been under the current tax plan.

Millions of middle class Americans are going to be hit with a higher tax burden, and much of that will be used to pay for the corporate tax rate being decreased from 35% to 20%. In addition, the elimination of the health insurance mandate will mean that those who must have health insurance will very likely be paying higher health insurance premiums than they do now, and the question of subsidies for those with less than certain incomes and those with pre-existing conditions is uncertain where the funding will come from.

As for the theory that the 15% decrease in corporate taxes will motivate corporations to hire more people, that is a fallacy. You don't hire people because of a tax break. People are hired based on the demand for a product they are selling. That is what was sold to people with Reaganomics, and the trickle down economy was a complete failure. Oklahoma and Kansas tried a similar scheme at the state level, and the only thing it accomplished was higher corporate bonuses,.

The republican tax plan also has negative implications for the real estate market and charitable contributions. since less people will be itemizing anymore.


GreenPartyVoter

(72,381 posts)
2. As small business owners, losing write-offs will just kill us!!
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:27 AM
Dec 2017

I am calling my Sen and Rep tomorrow (Susan Collins and Bruce Poliquin) to freak out on them. We have two college age kids, Health care through the ACA, and a business that are all at risk because of this tax deform monstrosity!!

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
4. You are not losing business write-offs. You are a business owner, not an employee.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

Changes to deductibility of unreimbursed employee business expenses don't affect businesses.

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
3. Just change your W-4. You are in charge of whether
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:06 PM
Dec 2017

The money comes now or later.

In addition, the point at which time tax rate makes the loss of the personal exemption cost more than the gain from the child tax credit is around 300,000 in taxable income for a married couple.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
5. Tax calculation for single filer making $50K/year with standard deduction
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 01:40 PM
Dec 2017

Current law, taxable income = $39600, taxes = $5638.

House bill, taxable income = $37800, taxes = $4536

Senate bill, taxable income = $38000, taxes = $4369

So the new law tends to benefit the single, low income, renter. I'd think this would be a core Democratic constituency.


Tax rates taken from https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029916553

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