other side does.

It's the same moral compass she'll have when we win back the House and Senate.

TrumpRussia. Some of them are targets.

Where was her moral compass when we were lied into warwhen she was asked later about prosecuting Bush and Cheney she told us to keep our powder dry.

You can't play by the rules as the other side ruthlessly doesn't believe there are any rules.

WTF!
Maybe re-phrase that title.
Cripe sakes

When we cry about integrity in other contexts, we are told that ANYBODY with a D after their name is preferable, so please just stop. Y'all can't have it both ways. More Ds make for a better America or it doesn't. I've tried nuance before and been told to stop being a divider. Now, I'm a uniter and still getting shit on. Fuck this noise.

What good does it do to throw our integrity out the window, along with ethics? Who does it endear? Our base? No. The independent that sees no difference between the Republican or Democratic Party? No. The white, male, old Republican?

What are we fighting for here, again? I forget. Who are we going after by throwing integrity, ethics and our base, out the window?

People can either accept a large tent, say they do (but really don't), or have a small tent, i suppose. I WANT integrity, but it must come from those who constantly WHINE about Manchin being the best we can get from WV. Any other criticism is moot cuz purity (in the form of a magical D ... until their fucking mind changes). I picked Manchin out of a hat, but insert whoever suits your fancy.

Anything to add or are you just psychoanalyzing me?

That kind of language kinda stops conversation.

How about we allow nuance throughout the conversation and this won't happen?

Have the last word. You're being obtuse and need it.

When Ms Pelosi starts demanding Trump be impeached for his incidents of harassment, will you be on the front lines saying, "she did the right thing getting rid of the Dems accused of the same thing." Or, will you be saying, "Nah, she didn't get rid of Dems accused of it, why should the President face charges?"

There is nothing special about him, nothing worth protecting. He can be replaced with another Democrat who has not been accused of sexual harassment by multiple women.

In that context, who cares what Republicans do?

But look at every case individually. Some members should resign and we must find a way to do the right thing without forcing every single case to resign.

Is this shit allowed to stay on DU? Conyers is a Democrat. We are about sick and tired of the Race Card being played on Conyers by a bunch of more likely than not Caucasian folks behind the comfort of the keyboard and a computer fixing their typing skills to say the flat lies about the Dean of the U.S. Congress, the HONORABLE John Conyers.

Seeing how long this shit will be allowed to stand on DU.....

From Mr. Conyers ACTUAL VOTERS.....

In Conyers’ district, constituents demand due process

He could have fought the allegations, but decided not to.

He should leave Congress, and be replaced by someone who has not been accused by multiple women of harassment.

This is pretty simple stuff.

Having a D next to your name doesn't give you special rights to do as you please, while the party closes ranks. That's absurd and disgusting.

And stay in Congress shining a spotlight on their true values.

But I believe all the Democrats on your list should resign. Feel free to utilize the permalink is located in the bottom left hand corner of this post.

I’ve made about 5 posts in the last month, I’m not sure what you are expecting me to produce. What an incredibly bizarre interaction.

Repigs NEVER take responsibility for their own actions despite their tiresome blather about "personal responsibility." Fuck them.

Fuck that guy. We might lose that district, we might not, but he’s only one step above “date rapist” on my scale.

I wish that she'd stop with the "impeachment is off the table" stuff while she's at it.

The double-whammy makes her look like Republicans' best ally on The Hill.

And I don't care at this point. Really.

Roy Moore has raped and molested. Trump has raped and molested. David Vitter went to prostitutes and wore diapers. And so far, NONE of these Grand Old Perverts has paid the price.

Show me a Dem who has raped and molested and I will show you someone I want to see hauled before a judge and jury.

But everything we hold dear is hanging by a thread, and every single Dem from the House or Senate that we voluntarily throw to the wolves is -- thrown to the wolves. There is no reciprocity. There is no "cleaning up" of Congress by the other side. All that happens is we lose that vote and that seat.. The GOP is at war with us, and we are losing.

Censure the jerks. Fine them. Make them pay their own legal bills. Make a harassment policy worth its salt, one that is fair to the victims.

But do NOT throw away one more precious Dem vote this year without extreme cause.

I want the issue in 018 or 020.

Any mother has to be appalled at the thought of a thirty two year old man "seducing" her daughter.

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We can use the comparison in 2018. Democrats don't tolerate harassment and Republicans do.