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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGRASSLEY IMPLIES WORKING CLASS SPENDS TAX CUTS ON BOOZE OR WOMEN OR MOVIES
After pretending for a brief moment in 2016 that the Republican Party stood for working people, the Republican-controlled Congress reverted back to trickle-down form on Friday when they passed a tax reform bill that overwhelmingly favored the rich. Not to be outdone, though, Senator Chuck Grassley made clear his disdain for those not benefiting under the new tax law.
I think not having the estate tax recognizes the people that are investing, as opposed to those that are just spending every darn penny they have, whether its on booze or women or movies, Grassley told the Register in a story posted yesterday.
Its difficult to think of a more condescending, elitist worldview that if youre not ultra-wealthy, its clearly because youre wasting all your money on alcohol, frivolous fun and prostitutes (I assume thats what he meant when he said women). Certainly it couldnt be because people are struggling to find decent-paying jobs, are straddled with debt from the college education they need to attain better jobs, or are paying outrageous sums for health insurance and medical bills. Nope, it must be because theyre all getting hand jobs from hookers in the back of a dark movie theater while downing a bottle of Jack Daniels.
Thats also an interesting assumption that perhaps only the men in a household make and spend money.
https://iowastartingline.com/2017/12/03/grassley-implies-working-people-spend-tax-cuts-booze-women-movies/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)They're not used to idea of people paying for shit.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
https://www.icij.org/investigations/luxembourg-leaks/new-leak-reveals-luxembourg-tax-deals-disney-koch-brothers-empire/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxembourg-tax-disney-idUSKBN0JO06220141210
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/12/10/disney-and-koch-industries-delay-not-avoid-taxes-through-luxembourg/
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BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Ungrateful little people.... *shakes fists at the black Woman waiting for the bus to get to her second lowpay job*
niyad
(113,546 posts)they called her Honeypie in New Orleans,
the hottest of the bunch.
but on the old expense account,
she was gas, cigars and lunch.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's disgusting, but this is how these people really think. They have no idea what it is like for hard-working, struggling poor and middle-class families in this country. I wish the deplorables could see and hear what they really think of them. But then again, they would probably think that they were only referring to minorities. God, I hate these motherfuckers!
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)They do not live in the real world, we need to get the pitchforks out. We really will to remove these fuckers.
Mr.Bill
(24,318 posts)don't have to pay women to have sex with them. I suspect it's different for republican politicians.
That's what pissed them off most about Bill Clinton. Not that he has sex with women other than his wife, but that he didn't have to pay them for it.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)from someone at his Church Supper. Dealt with many a person who are or were in positions of power in Rural Areas,and,this friggin Statement has being uttered tons of times. When I asked where did you hear or come up with this idea,well so and so told me so. Read some of the letters to the Editor in Rural Newspapers.
Right Wing Hate Radio peddles this line 24/7.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)As do the Brewery workers, the warehouse folks, and the folks at the Quik Stop. Ditto for the other things that po` folk really spend money on, like groceries, used cars, and a day at the beach or the fair.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)I spent $7 to see Star Wars at a matinee. I dont buy snacks because they make me want to pee.
RandySF
(59,189 posts)I'm SO wasteful.
DiverDave
(4,886 posts)Mac. Couldn't really afford it, but he needed it for school.
Yep, hookers and booze.
Thats me, alright
RandySF
(59,189 posts)if he keeps his work in the cloud.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
https://www.icij.org/investigations/luxembourg-leaks/new-leak-reveals-luxembourg-tax-deals-disney-koch-brothers-empire/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxembourg-tax-disney-idUSKBN0JO06220141210
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/12/10/disney-and-koch-industries-delay-not-avoid-taxes-through-luxembourg/
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still_one
(92,381 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Ironic that Trump's fan base votes for the very people that define the swamp.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)this pissing on his very supporters among poor whites should be chuckie's "mittens 47 % takers" moment.
But, they won't hear it, or if they do, think that it applies to them.
benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)So anyone in the working class, which includes all of us in the 99 percent, who supports these asswipes has no self respect, none. If they do its effectively saying let me help you kick me more Mr. rich person I am worthless!
Duppers
(28,125 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)the concept that Republican working class people are smarter and spend their money wisely, whereas Democrat working class folks are painted as lazy, foolish and wasteful.
It is a pattern in their dogma.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)Brother thinks!
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)What little you have left over won't get you much if you invest it. Sure, you could cut out a little booze, put it in a jar and at the end of the year, try to invest it, but duh, being poor isn't fun, can't blame them for wanting their alcohol and tobacco.
He just doesn't like money going to anything fun.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)standingtall
(2,787 posts)Jack Daniels employs people, because people buy booze. Same thing with movies. So middle class people spending money on booze and movies creates jobs. Not that it's true that middle class people only spend their money on booze and movies it's surely not.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Squirreling your money away in tax-free offshore accounts.
I wouldn't care if people spent their refunds on hookers and porno mags. At least they spend it IN AMERICA.
RandySF
(59,189 posts)Then see how Grassley's Republican colleagues react.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)And when people drink at bars, bartenders like my cousin make tips. Those tips (in her case) are used to pay student loans.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)👍 post.
eShirl
(18,503 posts)Tikki
(14,559 posts)or even know anything about US LIBERALS, how would they know what we do?
It is probably true that the right wing fascists do pay attention to how their ilk DO spend their money.
The money that the repugs haven't stolen from the deplorables surly is spent on booze or strippers or the stupid movies.
Tikki
Qutzupalotl
(14,322 posts)Millions more people buying things creates demand, which stimulates hiring.
The poor and middle class bounce those dollars around a lot among themselves. Investments made by the rich may or may not stimulate growth. And there's no guarantee the rich will even invest their extra $ and not simply hoard or squander.
Vinca
(50,303 posts)But I'm so happy people who sit on their ass and count the money they inherited will be even better off.
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)I'm going to take my $75 and spend half on wine, women and song, and the rest I'll spend foolishly! Loose living and self-indulgence, here I come!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)that is 58 years, he has been destroying lives since then
84 years old, always had his mouth on the taxpayer's teat
what does he know about really working a real job??
getagrip_already
(14,834 posts)No health insurance? take out a loan.
Homeless? Get an apartment.
disabled? stand up, pull up your pants,turn your hat around, and get a job.
Not going to live without cancer treatment? Too bad.
Killed with a gun someone never should have had? thoughts and prayers.
check.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)To think that young people are dying in wars, as are the Muslims we use to fight them, for our nation that has forsaken its foundation and values.
Live it up, fucking rich RWers, at the expense of the
people to whom you send your thoughts and prayers.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)on lazy people who won't lift a finger and expect the federal govt to take care of them. Who the FUCK do these representatives think the people in this country really are and how we really live?
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Off the backs of the working poor, for many of the self made types, OR, inherited wealth, for which they did not work.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)god I almost threw up iwhen I heard Grassley's comment, so much disrespect for people, go ahead with those insults they won't last too long in office. And these jerks are there to represent us???? I don't think so.
They think we are always looking for a hand out, fuck them really. I remember was it Rubio who said oh they will buy I phones...........instead of doing something I can't remember right now.
They have such disdain for the American people.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)how disparagingly the congressMEN speak among themselves about most of their constituents, when they think no one's listening???
In addition to being grossly disgusting, this type of comment reveals their mentality and HOW LITTLE they understand of the lives and realities of MOST AMERICANS.
Talk about divorced from reality. And utterly unaware of the irony of criticizing struggling Americans while on the other hand granting massive subsidies that go to the wealthy and corporations. Stuff like crop subsidies for rich white puke farmers is A-OK but helping the next generation become educated is bad.
And now these fuckers are in charge of everything, courtesy in large part of those same people voting for them.
benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)They should be driven from office and never allowed near civilized humans again.
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)sort of Lord of the Flies and they can fight each other for dominance and hopefully kill each other off in the end? Do not let them procreate either.
benfranklin1776
(6,449 posts)Preferably one which is being overrun by rising sea levels from that Chinese hoax of global warming.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)What is available for failed, abandoned resorts (or sinking islands), located so that access can be kept sealed up? We have plenty of life-sentence prisoners who would be happy to be "resort staff",
TV rights to the thousands of surveillance cameras should cover a large % of security costs.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)So many of these assholes have to kick the poor Just for bullshit luck
That we filter out 80+%, automagically, is kinda sad, but is kind of a circuit breaker. Kick 'em on FAKE, kick 'em on BAD SCIENCE, kick 'em on REALITY!!!
We need to beat the drum about some old realities - that kindness and decency are a savings over time. Kicking the crap out of people to "Keep em in line" is both ineffective and expensive, and corrodes the soul of the hand that enforces Maybe - just maybe - a guaranteed basic income - would releive pressure on those who fall through the cracks, to an extent that it delivers services far more effectively by being less judgemental.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,035 posts)When the 1% get tax cuts they don't create new companies. They already have money working on all the opportunities they can find. They can't find any more opportunities.
But the little people start lots of small companies and that's where you find the innovation. Not from the safe money.
The 1% spend tax cuts on real estate and art investments, which is (pardon the expression) a circle jerk raising prices for those kind of items without increasing any productivity!
When people buy more booze, there have to be more trucks and truck drivers to move that. More farmers to grow hops and malt. More barristas to serve it. All that creates jobs and puts money in motion.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)How much is his annual fees at his private country club? etc etc.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)The corporations will use the windfall to buy back their own stock.
Good for major shareholders and company executives. But I don't think much money will go toward hiring or for raises.
Better to spend the money on booze and date nights at the movies.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,175 posts)But then the good people of Iowa will probably re-elect GrASSley
3catwoman3
(24,035 posts)Chuck ASSley.
bdamomma
(63,919 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)on every blue collar show, Fox News, RW radio NOW, before this tax legislation is signed?
At least take Grassley out.
underpants
(182,876 posts)He clearly does know how things work.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)JDC
(10,132 posts)That drives the economy. Giving them tax savings means they will inject more capital into the economy. The Rich save it. We are in for a crash. Thx GOP.....again.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,035 posts)(Note OP made this point too.)
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)madaboutharry
(40,219 posts)have been voting for this guy for decades.
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)When Chuck says working people to his white base, they know he's talking about black and brown skinned people. Liberals and progressives seem to miss the point that the white folks he's talking to know that Chuck isn't implying that his followers would ever behave that way - they are his base. When Chuck Steak says "working people" in this context he means people of color, minorities, lazy people, stupid people, etc.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)But his base knows exactly who he's "talking" about.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Seems Iowans didnt like the Senators characterization, not surprisingly.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)sadiegirl
(138 posts)Big difference is that the 1% get to write it off as tax deductions and the rest of us don't
don't forget mittens deducting something like $72,000 per year for his wife's dressage horse.
We need to stock up on pitchforks.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)When we get it we spend it. There are no guarantees when the fat cats get it. No guarantees if it will even be reinvested in this country.
Its right in front of his face. He is making our argument for us.
Calculating
(2,957 posts)Unlike wealthy people investing more money in their offshore bank accounts?
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)The one statistic I love.
25% of population think they are in the upper 1%:
milestogo
(16,829 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,857 posts)its none of their damn high class- high ass business. IN FRANCE the Rich trembled at being high classs.. at one time.
House of Roberts
(5,182 posts)There aren't any to speak of in the Senate bill.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,048 posts)or take care of our parents, or get cancer, or buy a house.
Republicans like to make their money the old fashion way: Inherit it.
sakabatou
(42,173 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,128 posts)And this is how he repays them.
How touching.
Grassleys constituents forgot an important lesson last year: their senators and congressional representatives are supposed to work for THEM, not their big donors.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Now I feel like we are getting screwed on the deal. BIGLY.
Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Please recognize true elitism when its presented right before you.
Deb
(3,742 posts)It's our money and I will support Dems candidates if I see any unexpected returns.
bullimiami
(13,103 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)for years
doc03
(35,363 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)I say that as one of the people here in Iowa Grassley looks down his nose at...
KPN
(15,649 posts)because they've already convinced their base and others in the working class that it is unfair for hard working Americans to be paying their hard earned money to support all those people who rely on welfare and federal handout instead of "helping themselves" to achieve greater personal prosperity; that the lazy people on welfare is why they aren't better off themselves.
Instead of proclaiming outrage, we need to be crafting our own messaging to counter this. Few of our elected officials currently do this well. It's a tough row to hoe, but we absolutely have to do this better. How are we going to do this? What is the message?
Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)old guy
(3,283 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)How dare he assume such things about people who aren't swimming in money they get for nothing more than being born. Elitist garbage.
RandySF
(59,189 posts)Donate $5, $10 or $20 dollars to Todd Wendt for State Senate . The election is December 12.
http://www.toddwendtforiowa.com
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)I did the numbers on my own income, and - unless there's some exotic tax-increaser in the GOP's atrocity, I'm looking at a savings of $269 per year. Divide by 26 pay periods, and I'll receive a tax cut of $10.35 per pay period.
The kind of women Grassley is implying I'm out there chasing with my yooge tax cut won't be impressed by a $10.35 meal, and I'll have to add a few bucks to buy a movie ticket...but I can get a pretty decent six-pack for ten bucks, so maybe I'll do that.
And I'll have to make that sixer stretch a LONG way to numb the pain of what General Secretary Trump is doing to my fellowman, but I'll feel good for a couple of hours anyway.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)For pitchforks and torches. Greedy, elitist sob.
Crataegus
(60 posts)Grassley is channeling Marie Antoinette.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)We watch PBS and listen to NPR for crying out loud!
muntrv
(14,505 posts)consumers, there is no business.
pansypoo53219
(20,993 posts)oasis
(49,401 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,128 posts)Tell me about it. The national Democratic Party sometimes details Texas Democratic activists to phone bank other states and I was assigned to call and pester people in Iowa.
I found the experience interesting. While the Iowa Democrats I called were more than willing to turn out and vote for Hillary, more than a few of them told me that they wouldn't vote for the Democratic senatorial candidate, but would instead voted for Grassley, treating him as a sort of elder statesman, despite the fact he was a Republican and had a Republican voting record. I knew my limits, I knew I couldn't persuade them otherwise, so I thanked them for their time, wished them the best, and went on to call the next person on my list.
Well, Charles Grassley has shown how he repays the trust Iowa voters of both parties put in him.
I can't help but wonder if all those Grassley might have done better to vote for Judas Iscariot instead.
oasis
(49,401 posts)was passed by Democrats. Grassley pretended to act in good faith and work with Obama to achieve a bi-partisan healthcare bill. The process was strung out until the summer recess, and then the town hall meetings across the country began to erode the public support for the bill.
Lo and behold, the next thing you know Grassley was spouting the "death panels" propaganda.
Grassley's name fits him like a glove, because he's a snake in the grass, and lower than snake shit.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)They aren't even hiding it anymore....
atreides1
(16,093 posts)And since Citizens United, they no longer have to hide their real intentions! The money they get from their "donors" far exceeds that pittance that they receive from the taxpayers...and they've decided to go where the money is!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Unless you are a billionaire, you are a useless eater to the GOP!
Do you finally get it America???
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Hookers and blow.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)And for the record, I think most of a real middle class tax cut would be used to pay down debt