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wt1531

(424 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:21 PM Dec 2017

My guess..Trump was told that tweet was a big admission of a crime

Last edited Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:21 PM - Edit history (1)

White House staff notified him....they huddled and brain stormed on how to get out of it....lawyer or someone in the huddle came up with the idea of "lawyer tweeted that one." They all said "lets go with that one". It is pure BS that a lawyer would walk around with the president's phone and tweet things not thought through....specially one that is an incriminating one. Pure bs


That is my educated guess as to what happened.

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My guess..Trump was told that tweet was a big admission of a crime (Original Post) wt1531 Dec 2017 OP
Sounds like a reasonable story. DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #1
It probably would be easy enough to find out. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #32
No question SCantiGOP Dec 2017 #37
Exactly. DangerousUrNot Dec 2017 #41
Probably Siwsan Dec 2017 #2
How is that orange nightmare even walking upright? If Lewandowski is to believed, he catbyte Dec 2017 #18
hey he did have a DIET coke D_Master81 Dec 2017 #23
And what up with that Diet Coke? Is that, perhaps, his substance to abuse? Siwsan Dec 2017 #28
Objection, your Honor . . . HuskyOffset Dec 2017 #29
The noon-time McDonald's airlift. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #33
Doctor Schmockter. Trump wrote that so-called medical report himself. hedda_foil Dec 2017 #45
I think that is the general consensus (outside Faux News circles) Doodley Dec 2017 #3
I think so too Jarqui Dec 2017 #4
I believe that TRump's attorney ghostsinthemachine Dec 2017 #5
I have assumed that, too. dchill Dec 2017 #6
But why would the lawyer admit it was his tweet? no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #7
He's falling on his sword... he'll be rewarded by the kakistocracy... Rollo Dec 2017 #10
The Trump brand is finished. SergeStorms Dec 2017 #35
not to mention: is it even legal for someone to tweet from the president's phone... tomp Dec 2017 #43
Was the lawyer with Trump in the bathroom? Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #8
(probably on his knees..........just a guess......."inspecting" the tiny bling...........) lastlib Dec 2017 #22
I'd say that is almost certainly the case jimlup Dec 2017 #9
For Clarification: The lawyer did not admit to sending the tweet BadGimp Dec 2017 #11
I heard the president was on AF one mainstreetonce Dec 2017 #13
So that's supposed to somehow prove that he didn't send the tweet himself? Like Air Force One catbyte Dec 2017 #16
No mainstreetonce Dec 2017 #31
I can't believe that they are claiming that his lawyer... SeattleVet Dec 2017 #12
It truly challenges credibility to blame a would-be skilled attorney for admission of a crime. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #14
Great article thanks for posting Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #19
Plus the linguistics. Only a layman says "pled" instead of pleaded. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #21
Not necessarily. "Pleaded" has become prefered but it isn't street slang. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2017 #27
I have never liked pleaded and usually say pled. Shrike47 Dec 2017 #34
Dowd is part of the conspiracy now. He may have to Ilsa Dec 2017 #47
Especially since it wasn't the official @POTUS account, but his own personal one. They think catbyte Dec 2017 #15
Has he ever used the official account? jmowreader Dec 2017 #20
Where was the lawyer at that very moment? NurseJackie Dec 2017 #17
This particularly-obvious lie comes under the heading: Mira Dec 2017 #24
i agree that the lawyer's "story" is complete bullshit n/t orleans Dec 2017 #25
Yep. Snackshack Dec 2017 #26
I believe you're correct Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #30
+1, OJ TRIED THE SAME "my lawyer told me to do it" DEFENSE and it didn't work uponit7771 Dec 2017 #36
No one except MFM008 Dec 2017 #38
Without a doubt. honest.abe Dec 2017 #39
is this an ethical issue? Takket Dec 2017 #40
That was my thought as well! Would a lawyer say "pled" rather MojoWrkn Dec 2017 #42
Trump's defense on his criminal admission: "My lawyer did it." Galraedia Dec 2017 #44
Get him to admit it under oath. rickford66 Dec 2017 #46

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
32. It probably would be easy enough to find out.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:33 PM
Dec 2017

Find out where Don-the-Con's lawyer was at that time. If he was even in the White House, where was Donnie? Was Donnie in the residence, the Oval Office, sitting on the can (eating all that McDonald's crap is a unnatural super laxative)? Then find out where the lawyer was. Everyone's placement is a matter of record in the White House. No one just wanders around unknown and unseen.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
37. No question
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:02 PM
Dec 2017

Trump fired it off and somebody said, “you know you just verified your obstruction of justice.”
So the grown-ups came in the room and once again had to clean up little Donnie’s mess.

DangerousUrNot

(431 posts)
41. Exactly.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:11 PM
Dec 2017

If they have cameras in the White House, they could match up the footage with time of the tweet and
Got em!

Siwsan

(26,295 posts)
2. Probably
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:25 PM
Dec 2017

It looks like it was sent right about lunch time. trump * was probably getting cranky, waiting for his massive McDonald's delivery to arrive.

catbyte

(34,458 posts)
18. How is that orange nightmare even walking upright? If Lewandowski is to believed, he
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:35 PM
Dec 2017

eats TWO Big Macs and TWO Filet-o-Fish sandwiches for lunch, all washed down by a large Diet Coke. GACK!

Forget Mueller. I'm betting on clogged arteries getting him first.

Siwsan

(26,295 posts)
28. And what up with that Diet Coke? Is that, perhaps, his substance to abuse?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:21 PM
Dec 2017

It certainly isn't going to mitigate any of the calories, sodium or fat grams in that flatulence feast.

HuskyOffset

(890 posts)
29. Objection, your Honor . . .
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:26 PM
Dec 2017

I seem to recall that the order was two Big Macs, two Filet-o-fish, and a *malted*

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
33. The noon-time McDonald's airlift.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:38 PM
Dec 2017

Pallet upon pallet of artery hardening, heart attack fuel airlifted to Donnie boy each day at noon. Followed by two-scoops, of course.

But his "doctor" says he's the healthiest man he's ever seen. If his "doctor" is as incompetent as his lawyer seems to be, Donnie is fucked.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
45. Doctor Schmockter. Trump wrote that so-called medical report himself.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:46 AM
Dec 2017

The junkie doc said he only had five minutes before Donnie's boyzz picked it up. All the doc did was sign it.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
5. I believe that TRump's attorney
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:26 PM
Dec 2017

Don't know jack shit about the law. Yeah, let's go with that. Theses tweets are only binding sometimes, and certainly not when some lawyer steals my phone.

no_hypocrisy

(46,207 posts)
7. But why would the lawyer admit it was his tweet?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:27 PM
Dec 2017

He just exposed himself to potential disbarment. Several ethics violations by stating he said it, not Trump.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
10. He's falling on his sword... he'll be rewarded by the kakistocracy...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:31 PM
Dec 2017

He's now made for life...

Nice work if you can get it.

Trump must go down.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
35. The Trump brand is finished.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:57 PM
Dec 2017

Don-the-Con is finally going to get his comeuppance. The Trump brand is done, for the entire family. JarJar - in all probability - is going to be in prison for quite some time, leaving poor, poor Ivanka with a useless clothing line, and tons of bills to pay. JarJar is going to lose his monstrosity of a building on Fifth Avenue, losing billions. Why, Jared and Ivanka might have to sell their precious art collection (the one they never reported to the FBI and IRS)!

The entire Trump family might actually have to WORK for a living! I hope Donnie can scrape along on his Social Security check. You know, the one that's going to get smaller and smaller, right along with the rest of ours.

My point being, there is no 'Trump Empire' to hitch your star to anymore. If that was his lawyer's intention, he's dumber than Donnie. Donnie will declare bankruptcy, again, but things aren't going to quite be the same for the white trash with cash Trump family, and even though I know I shouldn't revel in others' misfortune, I'm going to love every second of their misery.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
43. not to mention: is it even legal for someone to tweet from the president's phone...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:21 PM
Dec 2017

...pretending to be the president. that's kinda like fraud, and there also must be some sort of security restriction on using his phone.

lastlib

(23,309 posts)
22. (probably on his knees..........just a guess......."inspecting" the tiny bling...........)
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:54 PM
Dec 2017

just a guess.......

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
9. I'd say that is almost certainly the case
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:30 PM
Dec 2017

I doubt very seriously any lawyer would ever recommend that the even the Orange naked clown king thing pResident tweet ANYTHING

BadGimp

(4,019 posts)
11. For Clarification: The lawyer did not admit to sending the tweet
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:36 PM
Dec 2017

- The Lawyer said he dictated the tweet to the Whitehouse Social Media staffer.
- The Social Media Staffer sent the tweet. To do that he did not need to use the President's phone. He merely logged into the President's Twitter account, and make the post.
- There is a strong digital data trail that can be uncovered that will point to precisely who sent the tweet and from what device/where. So if Mueller ever wants to investigate this he can uncover the truth.

catbyte

(34,458 posts)
16. So that's supposed to somehow prove that he didn't send the tweet himself? Like Air Force One
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:31 PM
Dec 2017

doesn't have Internet access?!?

Suuuuuuuuure, riiiiight. Yeah, that's the ticket!

SeattleVet

(5,480 posts)
12. I can't believe that they are claiming that his lawyer...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:40 PM
Dec 2017

admitted to the world that he is guilty.

That's even more damning than him doing it to himself!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
14. It truly challenges credibility to blame a would-be skilled attorney for admission of a crime.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 08:58 PM
Dec 2017

How stupid do they think their base is?

White House rushes to protect Trump after Trump tweet seemingly admitting to obstruction of justice
By Hunter -- Dec 03, 2017 · 10:34 AM PST

Donald Trump, aka the Garbage Fire masquerading as a president, has been made fully aware that ex-national security adviser Michael Flynn has cut a plea deal and will be cooperating into the special counsel investigation of whether the Donald Trump campaign illegally conspired with Russian espionage or propaganda efforts during the 2016 elections. We know this because Garbage Fire is melting down on his weekend Twitter feed even more than is typical. Most of it is an extended condemnation of our nation’s FBI, which is not expected behavior of any president, in any era.

But the most curious part of his reaction is being widely interpreted by reporters, lawyers and pundits alike as being an admission on Trump's part that he indeed knew Michael Flynn had committed prosecutable crimes before he asked then-FBI director James Comey to stop pursuing Flynn—firing Comey soon after that conversation

So Trump had been made personally aware that Flynn had lied to the FBI, as he met with the director of that FBI to encourage leniency.

As this blockbuster Trump admission ricocheted around press rooms, the White House quickly attempted to walk it back by claiming it was Trump's lawyer, John Dowd, who authored the tweet. This was intended to immunize Trump. It did not work, because having the President's personal lawyer assert, in the voice of his client, that his client knew of a committed crime before asking that the FBI curtail their investigation does not seem to be as innocent-sounding as they had presumed.

So the White House rapidly moved to revise their statements again; this time, Dowd gave a confusing mea culpa in which he attempted to explain that the White House did indeed know that Flynn had lied to the FBI, but Trump was somehow under the impression that the Justice Department wasn't going to be bothering to press charges against Flynn so … something. As Axios says in their own reporting, this explanation is "just plain suspicious and weird."

So then. The question of the day is: Just what the hell is going on here?

First things first: Even Dowd's latest excuse does not exonerate the White House. Dowd's claim is that Trump knew Flynn had committed a potential federal offense when asking the FBI director to back off on pursuing him, but Trump was already under the impression that the FBI wasn't going to charge Flynn to begin with. So he's arguing that Trump had no reason to ask Comey to "back off" Flynn, but did so anyway.

Second: The White House is probably lying. Trump almost certainly did indeed send the tweet himself. It is in his voice; it is consistent with his usual belligerence and exclamation-point-based random Twitter outbursts. The rapid White House effort at damage control suggests they did not, in fact, plan the wording in advance but were caught off-guard by it. The best evidence the tweet was not written by Trump is that all the words are spelled correctly, but Trump has indeed managed that before.

The best evidence that the White House is lying about who authored the tweet, however, is that the White House lies about everything, all the time, on a daily basis. They lie in every press briefing; they lie repeatedly when summoned to television-land, and in readily provable ways; they entered office lying about the size of the president's this and the success of his that and are widely recognized at this point to be willing to lie about anything, for any reason, if they believe the dodge will get them through another day of gubberminting.

It is not likely Dowd authored the tweet, crafting it to sound exactly like a blustering Garbage Fire. It is more likely Trump authored the tweet, and Trump's staff and his personal lawyer immediately launched a defensive effort to pretend Trump did not ...................................


Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
19. Great article thanks for posting
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:38 PM
Dec 2017

My favorite part:

The best evidence that the White House is lying about who authored the tweet, however, is that the White House lies about everything, all the time, on a daily basis. They lie in every press briefing; they lie repeatedly when summoned to television-land, and in readily provable ways; they entered office lying about the size of the president's this and the success of his that and are widely recognized at this point to be willing to lie about anything, for any reason, if they believe the dodge will get them through another day of gubberminting.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
21. Plus the linguistics. Only a layman says "pled" instead of pleaded.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:53 PM
Dec 2017

An experienced litigator does not used the word pled as a past tense of plead. Trump wouldn't know that the street slang is ungrammatical.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
34. I have never liked pleaded and usually say pled.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:42 PM
Dec 2017

More than a few trials, most involving criminal activity.

Of course, I am kinda old.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
47. Dowd is part of the conspiracy now. He may have to
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:40 PM
Dec 2017

Resign and dotus' lawyer. He will be called to testify, I bet.

catbyte

(34,458 posts)
15. Especially since it wasn't the official @POTUS account, but his own personal one. They think
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:28 PM
Dec 2017

the rest of us are as stupid & gullible as their pathetic cult.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
20. Has he ever used the official account?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:47 PM
Dec 2017

As far as I know, his only communication medium is the personal Twitter account he has.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
24. This particularly-obvious lie comes under the heading:
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:56 PM
Dec 2017

"Don’t piss down my neck and tell me it’s raining.”

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
26. Yep.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 10:06 PM
Dec 2017

This story is ever bit as absurd as the one where it was the lawyers fault for being in the way of Dick Cheney’s shotgun.

Takket

(21,635 posts)
40. is this an ethical issue?
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:07 PM
Dec 2017

Isn't it INCREDIBLY unethical for a lawyer to fake having been responsible for the existence of evidence that can be used against their client? I would think that would be grounds for disbarment.

Galraedia

(5,027 posts)
44. Trump's defense on his criminal admission: "My lawyer did it."
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:27 PM
Dec 2017

O_o ...So your lawyer who is suppose to have enough knowledge of criminal law to practice it just incriminated you on Twitter? Wtf?

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