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hlthe2b

(102,390 posts)
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 06:55 AM Dec 2017

Women Are Getting Banned from Facebook for Calling Men Scum-- the Daily Beast

Worth reading the whole article. Facebook has done nothing to prevent its being manipualed by trolls of all stripes IMO

https://www.thedailybeast.com/women-are-getting-banned-from-facebook-for-calling-men-scum

‘Absolutely Silencing Women’
Women Are Getting Banned from Facebook for Calling Men ‘Scum’
Women had accounts banned from Facebook for responding to male trolls with sentences like ‘men are trash,’ in part because the company classifies white men as a protected group.

In the wake of the #MeToo movement, countless women have taken to Facebook to express their frustration and disappointment with men and have been promptly shut down or silenced, banned from the platform for periods ranging from one to seven days.

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When asked why a statement such as “men are scum” would violate community standards, a Facebook spokesperson said that the statement was a threat and hate speech toward a protected group and so it would rightfully be taken down.

As ProPublica revealed in an investigation in June, white men are listed as a protected group by the platform.
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Context also matters. One reason female comics often seem to run afoul of Facebook’s guidelines is that the company’s content moderators fail to recognize the humor in their posts. Popular tropes such as “ban men” are interpreted literally under Facebook’s current set of community standards, and women suffer the consequences for attempting to express themselves.
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Trolls know this. “The ironic thing about Literal Nazis is that they have weaponized taking things literally,” BuzzFeed writer Katie Notopoulos wrote recently.
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Women Are Getting Banned from Facebook for Calling Men Scum-- the Daily Beast (Original Post) hlthe2b Dec 2017 OP
Solution: dont call men trash Loki Liesmith Dec 2017 #1
Nothing to say about the trolls threatening these women on Facebook, though, eh Loki. Right. gotcha hlthe2b Dec 2017 #2
They should be banned. Loki Liesmith Dec 2017 #5
No kidding, but they're Not being banned and that is the point. whathehell Dec 2017 #15
And of course you can say that Obama is not American over and over malaise Dec 2017 #21
Oh, brother. You wrote my response on a card... Heavens.. hlthe2b Dec 2017 #23
JFC MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #4
They are using the improper term "Scum" to describe men. The proper term is "Scumbags" :-D TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #34
And one more time - "It's her fault." sarge43 Dec 2017 #6
Thank you. Orrex Dec 2017 #9
Awww, the poor triggered dudebros Tarc Dec 2017 #19
"They have weaponized taking things literally." kcr Dec 2017 #3
How about the men calling women "sluts" "cunts"" "bitches" and whores? whathehell Dec 2017 #7
That's just locker room talk. Orrex Dec 2017 #8
Bingo! Yeah if the Dotard in chief can talk about p-y, I guess it makes it all ok. Tipperary Dec 2017 #37
AMEN!! samnsara Dec 2017 #10
Try it here and see what happens. I guarentee it'll be very fast and without any ambiguity. marble falls Dec 2017 #12
"here"? I'm talking about Facebook.. whathehell Dec 2017 #13
I'm comparing "here" to "Facebook". "Facebook" could be handling it like they do "here". marble falls Dec 2017 #14
I see.. whathehell Dec 2017 #16
We're all pulling the same direction. marble falls Dec 2017 #17
That is generally the case, yes. n/t whathehell Dec 2017 #18
Saying those things is OK . . . HuskyOffset Dec 2017 #22
This was happening on Facebook long before Trump whathehell Dec 2017 #24
They should be thrown off... no excuse for such crude disgusting language. But, in any case... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #31
I saw a video on FB where men had their wives on dog leashes , none of them were banned. SummerSnow Dec 2017 #11
Leave the President out of this. padfun Dec 2017 #20
Menr were slurring women on Facebook long before Trump.. whathehell Dec 2017 #25
And before that tazkcmo Dec 2017 #27
Exactly... whathehell Dec 2017 #30
It was a joke. Hence the /snark padfun Dec 2017 #35
IMaybe jokes about the slurring of women whathehell Dec 2017 #36
rofl SummerSnow Dec 2017 #29
well, when we act like the potus heaven05 Dec 2017 #26
Yet another reason why I dont use that POS service. roamer65 Dec 2017 #28
weaponizing taking things literally is what they are trying to do to Sam Seder right now ProfessorPlum Dec 2017 #32
Don't feed the trolls IronLionZion Dec 2017 #33

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
5. They should be banned.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:06 AM
Dec 2017

But the article wasn’t about that, was it hlthe2b, was it?

Gotcha.

I’m going to write your reply on a card so I can check later on if I’m right about your predictable answer.

Surprise me.

hlthe2b

(102,390 posts)
23. Oh, brother. You wrote my response on a card... Heavens..
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:26 AM
Dec 2017


The article was Facebook's response to women who are fighting back against the worst of the internet's misogynistic trolls. Something YOU ignored

TheBlackAdder

(28,224 posts)
34. They are using the improper term "Scum" to describe men. The proper term is "Scumbags" :-D
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:34 AM
Dec 2017

.


Scum-sucking Pigs will work too

.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
6. And one more time - "It's her fault."
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:10 AM
Dec 2017

Facebook let this go on for some time. Threatening anal rape goes a bit beyond calling some people "trash", don't you think?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141721136

Orrex

(63,225 posts)
9. Thank you.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:21 AM
Dec 2017

It's about time someone stood up for the oppressed white male.

The dominant demographic in American culture has had to face repercussions for its behavior for far too long. Like twenty minutes, at least.


kcr

(15,320 posts)
3. "They have weaponized taking things literally."
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 07:29 AM
Dec 2017

They are masters at this. I see this all the time and watch people fall for it and it's so frustrating. Not a bit surprised about Facebook.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
37. Bingo! Yeah if the Dotard in chief can talk about p-y, I guess it makes it all ok.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 08:51 PM
Dec 2017

Sickening. I am so glad I stay away from fb. Everything I read about it is just awful. White males are a protected group there?

HuskyOffset

(890 posts)
22. Saying those things is OK . . .
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:20 AM
Dec 2017

. . . if you're grabbing them by the p***y while you do it, because then it's, you know . . . presidential.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)
31. They should be thrown off... no excuse for such crude disgusting language. But, in any case...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:08 AM
Dec 2017

there ought to be a consistent standard.

The issue is also one of over-generalization. It's one thing thing to generally refer to men as "scum," and quite another to use that term to ACCURATELY refer to the Pussy-Grabber-in-Chief.

whathehell

(29,096 posts)
25. Menr were slurring women on Facebook long before Trump..
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:33 AM
Dec 2017

so I'm afraid a diversion in his direction won't work.

padfun

(1,788 posts)
35. It was a joke. Hence the /snark
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 12:43 PM
Dec 2017

Since there is a picture out there with Melania on a lease, it was pointing out that Trump is like that too..

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
26. well, when we act like the potus
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 09:47 AM
Dec 2017

we have now, boasting of the ability to do what they may to ANY woman that they may desire in their daily lives, walk in on teenagers in their dressing rooms where they were half clothed just because he could, could ogle teenage girls in front of witnesses and have the accusations of 16 women who say he sexual harassed and in some cases forced himself upon them as OPEN, not adjudicated cases, then that man and ANY like him is a "beast". Simple logic.

ProfessorPlum

(11,279 posts)
32. weaponizing taking things literally is what they are trying to do to Sam Seder right now
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:20 AM
Dec 2017

sarcasm is the best form of communication, and it is a shame to have it threatened. Or its best practitioners.

IronLionZion

(45,543 posts)
33. Don't feed the trolls
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:25 AM
Dec 2017

I've unfriended many people. We all choose who we respond to. There are ways to stop seeing posts from certain users.

For example, people who feel I should go back to another country(born in USA) - block
People who think I'm stealing jobs away from Americans - block
People who think I've gotten too uppity and should remember my place - block

There is also a setting to remain friends but not see their posts. This way we can still send out messages for class reunions or whatever.

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