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fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts) Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:39 PM Dec 2017

re Al - I doubt this will change minds in our anonymity.

But I think the perspective is worth reading.

“…My son asked, “So….is it a good thing that he’s leaving? Or bad?” And I answered, “There’s nothing good about any of this. But if he didn’t leave, it would be worse….”

Ijeoma Oluo
Dear Al Franken: I’ll Miss You, But You Can’t Matter Anymore

https://theestablishment.co/dear-al-franken-ill-miss-you-but-you-can-t-matter-anymore-f2f690672b4f

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re Al - I doubt this will change minds in our anonymity. (Original Post) fleabiscuit Dec 2017 OP

Dear ACORN... greeny2323 Dec 2017 #1

Ka-Ching n/t Strelnikov_ Dec 2017 #3

Perhaps we can penalize states that don't hold a caucus. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #5

Excuse me, but in my humble opinion this is garbage. nt scarletwoman Dec 2017 #2

absolutely n/t Break time Dec 2017 #6

Going to take a break huh? :-) fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #8

I liked the picture. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #9

K&R WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #4

Thank you. fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #7

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #10

I'm sensing anger. fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #12

Oh no, they convicted him based on spurious allegations ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #14

Have we seen republithugs celebrating on TV over Al? It's the ship that matters. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #17

Are you confident in the party? ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #19

Well, we need "a" party to participate in an effective number. fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #22

Fine, overhaul the party ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #24

I truly understand how you feel. fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #29

DU is hardly the Democratic Party. We are a bunch of folks who want to live this stuff daily wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #28

Ship is listing after throwing due process overboard delisen Dec 2017 #34

+1 bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #30

That's right. Al Franken doesn't matter. Roger Stone's buddies matter more! kcr Dec 2017 #11

It's the ship that matters.nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #13

Why don't tell your friend what good buds Tweeden is with Trump Jr kcr Dec 2017 #15

At tRumps rally tonight they were chanting "lock her up." nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #16

We erase you, Al Franken! kcr Dec 2017 #20

(Don't tell anybody, but I'm still hurting over Al. I'm letting it go.) fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #23

Yay ignorance Egnever Dec 2017 #18

Actually I think I could use one of "flashy things" from Men In Black. fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #25

She said he groped Leann Tweeden. califootman Dec 2017 #21

We're not "her." nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #26

Project much? I wonder what it is you are hiding? wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #27

Really? "...in our anonymity." I'm rubber you're glue. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #32

I feel like awesomerwb1 Dec 2017 #31

I had good friends. They knew when to place an empty trashcan by my bed. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #33

greeny2323

(590 posts)

1. Dear ACORN...

Reply to fleabiscuit (Original post)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 11:42 PM

Dec 2017

We know you didn't do anything wrong, and got swindled by an evil right-wing fuck, but we're pulling support because we don't want to be tainted. So fuck off ACORN!

And that helped us SO MUCH!

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)

3. Ka-Ching n/t

Reply to greeny2323 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:10 AM

Dec 2017

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

5. Perhaps we can penalize states that don't hold a caucus. nt

Reply to greeny2323 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:15 AM

Dec 2017

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)

2. Excuse me, but in my humble opinion this is garbage. nt

Reply to fleabiscuit (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:08 AM

Dec 2017

Break time

(195 posts)

6. absolutely n/t

Reply to scarletwoman (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:15 AM

Dec 2017

actually think I will trash the op and ignore the originator

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

8. Going to take a break huh? :-)

Reply to Break time (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:18 AM

Dec 2017

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

9. I liked the picture. nt

Reply to scarletwoman (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:18 AM

Dec 2017

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,406 posts)

4. K&R

Reply to fleabiscuit (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:15 AM

Dec 2017

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

7. Thank you.

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:16 AM

Dec 2017

Response to fleabiscuit (Original post)

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fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

12. I'm sensing anger.

Reply to Post removed (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:28 AM

Dec 2017

Do you feel anger at the nearly 40 Democratic Senators who recommended Senator Franken step down? Do you think they are doing that to hurt the party? I don't.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

14. Oh no, they convicted him based on spurious allegations

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:34 AM

Dec 2017

and pictures that showed absolutely no groping. He was only one of our strongest senators. The author of the article was horrified that he pretended to grab Tweeden's boobs, that his hands were far from actually touching her? That, to the author, constitutes "groping"? With friends like this, the MeToo movement does not need any enemies.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

17. Have we seen republithugs celebrating on TV over Al? It's the ship that matters. nt

Reply to ProudLib72 (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:42 AM

Dec 2017

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

19. Are you confident in the party?

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:47 AM

Dec 2017

The majority of DU feels outrage. If that is any indication of how every Democratic voter feels, then...

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

22. Well, we need "a" party to participate in an effective number.

Reply to ProudLib72 (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:56 AM

Dec 2017

And the increasing number of impressive voices from women I'm seeing is heartening. We got a chance. In the big picture the DU is a small subset.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

24. Fine, overhaul the party

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:01 AM

Dec 2017

But don't do it by throwing one of our best senators under the bus just because a friend of Don Jr, Stone, and Hannity said he molested her. This is NOT the way to begin an election year!

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

29. I truly understand how you feel.

Reply to ProudLib72 (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:12 AM

Dec 2017

And telling you I've seen plenty of good ones come and go in the 44 years of actually voting seems trivial to you ant the moment.

But you have said what is more important than even Al... we have to "begin an election year!"

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)

28. DU is hardly the Democratic Party. We are a bunch of folks who want to live this stuff daily

Reply to ProudLib72 (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:11 AM

Dec 2017

delisen

(6,044 posts)

34. Ship is listing after throwing due process overboard

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 02:24 AM

Dec 2017

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)

30. +1

Reply to Post removed (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:12 AM

Dec 2017

kcr

(15,319 posts)

11. That's right. Al Franken doesn't matter. Roger Stone's buddies matter more!

Reply to fleabiscuit (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:27 AM

Dec 2017

God, what barftastic shit.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

13. It's the ship that matters.nt

Reply to kcr (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:29 AM

Dec 2017

kcr

(15,319 posts)

15. Why don't tell your friend what good buds Tweeden is with Trump Jr

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:35 AM

Dec 2017

Maybe she won't be so very very very very very confused anymore. Probably not.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

16. At tRumps rally tonight they were chanting "lock her up." nt

Reply to kcr (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:39 AM

Dec 2017

kcr

(15,319 posts)

20. We erase you, Al Franken!

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:49 AM

Dec 2017

You have to go away now! We have spoken- I'm sorry I'll stop now.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

23. (Don't tell anybody, but I'm still hurting over Al. I'm letting it go.)

Reply to kcr (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:00 AM

Dec 2017

Egnever

(21,506 posts)

18. Yay ignorance

Reply to fleabiscuit (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:43 AM

Dec 2017

So refreshing!

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

25. Actually I think I could use one of "flashy things" from Men In Black.

Reply to Egnever (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 01:01 AM

Dec 2017

califootman

(120 posts)

21. She said he groped Leann Tweeden.

Reply to fleabiscuit (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 12:51 AM

Dec 2017

I look at the smile on your face as you grope a sleeping woman

She is not seeing what is in that picture. She is seeing what she wants to see in that picture. I think the rest of the article reflects a similar mindset.