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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:28 PM Dec 2017

AP FACT CHECK: Trump lied in Pensacola speech

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Trump spoke Friday night in Pensacola, Florida, across the line from Alabama.

TRUMP, surveying the crowd: "Look at these guys, 'blacks for Trump.' I love you. I love you.
By the way, now that you bring it up, black home ownership just hit the highest level it has ever been in the history of our country. Congratulations."

THE FACTS: Not true or even close.
The U.S. Census finds that the black home ownership rate peaked during 2004 ...

TRUMP: "Working with Republicans in Congress we've already signed 88 pieces of legislation. ... we've passed more during this period of time than any other president in the history of our country”

THE FACTS: Trump's first-year legislative record pales next to that of a variety of presidents ...

TRUMP: We actually have a $17 billion deficit with Canada, right?

THE FACTS: Trump's accounting is puzzling and at odds with U.S. trade statistics ...

TRUMP: "They (his critics) don't want to accept the results of an election where we won by a landslide."

THE FACTS: His win was far from a landslide ...
His winning margin in the Electoral College is far closer to the narrowest win in history than to the widest.
As well, he lost the popular vote to Clinton.

TRUMP: "You know, we have factories pouring back into our country ...

THE FACTS: Factories are not pouring into the country, according to available data. Spending on the construction of factories has dropped 14 percent over the past 12 months. There has been a steady decline in spending on factory construction ...

TRUMP: "By the way, wages - starting to go up. First time in 20 years" ...

THE FACTS: It's not true that wages haven't gone up for 20 years.
The latest jobs report shows average hourly earnings up 2.5 percent over the past 12 months, roughly the same pace of growth as the year before, when Barack Obama was president ...

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump lied in Pensacola speech (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 OP
If his mouth was open Egnever Dec 2017 #1
He is eating? eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #7
Garbage in, garbage out. JHB Dec 2017 #14
Republican lies are dangerous Achilleaze Dec 2017 #2
Trump tying is hardly news...sad but true. Joe941 Dec 2017 #3
His shoes? PJMcK Dec 2017 #32
Duh! malaise Dec 2017 #4
they've known for a LONG time that they can lie with impunity. Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #15
It is unprecedented to hear from media, even MSM, that the president lies. Took them Amaryllis Dec 2017 #23
It's frightening malaise Dec 2017 #24
A shark must swim to live. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #5
Partially true ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #17
I learned something today. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #18
LOL malaise Dec 2017 #25
I'm not going to hold you to it ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #33
Reminds me of Michael K William's line from The Wire JonLP24 Dec 2017 #29
Trump is literally a perpetual lie machine dalton99a Dec 2017 #6
shocking. n/t tazkcmo Dec 2017 #8
So the Travelling Paid Actors show Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #9
If we could each have five dollars for every lie that Trump has told, we could Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #10
He's a mentally ill psychopath and he belongs in an institution Dem2 Dec 2017 #11
he lied, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Motley13 Dec 2017 #12
It'd be shocking the other way around. LisaL Dec 2017 #13
Birds fly, fish swim NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #16
"Trump Tells The Truth." Now that would be newsworthy. Vinca Dec 2017 #19
To be fair, fact checking Trump is shooting fish in a barrel: everytime he opens his mouth - lies. marble falls Dec 2017 #20
The Trumpster is . . . peggysue2 Dec 2017 #21
that's who he is...period. spanone Dec 2017 #22
He must have done this his whole career, just lied and bluffed his way through life. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #26
How does he get away with this shit? smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #27
He can't tell the difference between lying on his golf scorecard and life in general. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #28
The lie about record black home ownership was particularly evil nikatnyte Dec 2017 #30
He must have been awake and breathing. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #31
What did those in attendance think ... left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #34
I don't know what is more astounding -- Martin Eden Dec 2017 #35

malaise

(269,157 posts)
4. Duh!
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:37 PM
Dec 2017

He's a pathological LIAR.

This morning while I was responding to a great post about his lies, someone on M$NBComcast was talking about his lying ways and it dawned on me that I have never in my life heard or read about a US President who lies like the rest of us breathe.

What's more frightening is that neither he, the ReTHUGs and his deplorable evangelical base give a shit.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
15. they've known for a LONG time that they can lie with impunity.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:15 PM
Dec 2017

they've just stumbled, perhaps, on the reality that they can now lie all the time about everything

it's too hard to keep up, for one thing, and the repetition of a lie is mere marketing strategy, just making the product being marketed the falsehood of the moment, repeated endlessly until it becomes ''truthy'' in enough benighted minds to have accomplished its purpose

remember how Romney and McCain lied their asses off all during that campaign?

Both Bushes (Swiftboaters, anyone?). they tell a constant stream of lies, either until they gain traction, or until they realize that spaghetti doesn't stick to the wall. no prob; they have an endless stream of BS that they just crank out....Russian hackers have amplified the process logarithmically

it's how they win

truth has absolutely no meaning....it's actually a detriment these days, cause nobody pays attention. the more scabrous the lie, the more publicity it gets. even when lies are being debunked, people remember the lie, as much for its brevity, in most cases, than the counter because the debunking takes time and attention to process

it's so much easier to scream, ''emails! Benghazi! Blowjob! Lock Her Up! Tax Cuts for ALL!,'' than to get to the reality of any situation

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
23. It is unprecedented to hear from media, even MSM, that the president lies. Took them
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:57 PM
Dec 2017

while before they'd use that word, but it's about every time he says anything now you hear media talking about him lying. .

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. Partially true
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:22 PM
Dec 2017

Some sharks do not need to move. In fact, nurse sharks gather in large groups to "sleep".

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
33. I'm not going to hold you to it
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:47 PM
Dec 2017

I was just posting in the spirit of fact checking like the OP. So don't forget two things on my account.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. So the Travelling Paid Actors show
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:46 PM
Dec 2017

was present. Remember the Guy from Florida who wears a Blacks for Trump T-shirt,and sits in the Camera Shot as well as the Two Sisters with the Blonde Hair and wear the Red MAGA Caps,say no more.

Trump and his Paid Traveling Cheer Leaders .

Baitball Blogger

(46,756 posts)
10. If we could each have five dollars for every lie that Trump has told, we could
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:47 PM
Dec 2017

easily afford some very expensive Christmas gifts this holiday.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
11. He's a mentally ill psychopath and he belongs in an institution
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:51 PM
Dec 2017

I just can't believe he can lie with such impunity.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
12. he lied, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 05:59 PM
Dec 2017

what else is new, that is all that comes from that cesspool of a mouth


peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
21. The Trumpster is . . .
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 06:45 PM
Dec 2017

the snake, the very one he waxed eloquent about during the campaign, the snake that levels a venomous bite to his caretaker. He called that lyric/poem beautiful.

He lies because he has always lied. He lies because he has never taken responsibility for anything in his life. He lies because he cannot handle the truth, anymore than his ragged cabal can handle the truth. There was an essay out just this week, an analyses of lies and liars, the routine liar pressed against Trump. Hands down, Trump won in the game of lies and obfuscation.

So much winning!


Irish_Dem

(47,324 posts)
26. He must have done this his whole career, just lied and bluffed his way through life.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:08 PM
Dec 2017

And when he kept going bankrupt and American banks wouldn't lend him any more money,
he took his show on the road to Russia.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. How does he get away with this shit?
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:09 PM
Dec 2017

He can say anything and nobody challenges him on it. Every fucking word out of his mouth is a lie.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
28. He can't tell the difference between lying on his golf scorecard and life in general.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:12 PM
Dec 2017

He makes Tommy Flanagan look like a priest.

nikatnyte

(242 posts)
30. The lie about record black home ownership was particularly evil
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:23 PM
Dec 2017

...especially when his administration is doing everything it can to make it go down.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
34. What did those in attendance think ...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 07:50 PM
Dec 2017
When Trump said the arena was filled to the rafters,
and it wasn't half full?


Trump entering arena. Notice all the empty seats
in what he said was "filled to the rafters".

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
35. I don't know what is more astounding --
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:01 AM
Dec 2017

-- the sheer volume of tRump's lies or that so many still believe what he says.

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