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blimablam

(121 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:11 PM Dec 2017

tom arnold says he has proof that the right wing operative tweeden is a liar




Comedian Tom Arnold has claimed that radio host and alleged sexual harassment victim Leann Tweeden was 'coached' and 'groomed' by political guru Roger Stone to take down Al Franken.

Arnold alleged that while the photo of Franken pretending to grope Tweeden while she was asleep is real, she was cruelly manipulated by Stone into becoming a tool to oust the Democrat senator.

'It seems to me that these men around Leeann groomed her in pretty much the same manner prolific sexual predators groom their victims,' he told his Twitter followers.

And as well as making the startling remarks about his 'old friend', he also presented what he said was proof of the conspiracy.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5161687/Tom-Arnold-claims-Al-Franken-accusation-smear-campaign.html#ixzz50oQHi9nj
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tom arnold says he has proof that the right wing operative tweeden is a liar (Original Post) blimablam Dec 2017 OP
If Arnold is telling the truth and such evidence exists, one of two things: no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #1
No he can't. Fed Tort Claims act gives her immunity. Alice11111 Dec 2017 #11
I don't get it. no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #17
He backtracked on that claim after speaking with her oberliner Dec 2017 #2
can you post them? blimablam Dec 2017 #8
Here ya go oberliner Dec 2017 #12
thank you Judge Danforth Loki Liesmith Dec 2017 #9
Huh? oberliner Dec 2017 #14
prove it bluestarone Dec 2017 #10
Posted his tweets above oberliner Dec 2017 #13
Gee Tom; Where the FUCK have you been! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #3
Well, at least he is researching the facts now, which is Alice11111 Dec 2017 #15
Isn't this the same guy who brags about super-incriminating tapes of Trump, enough Dec 2017 #4
EXACTLY! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #5
Yes, he did this with info on the moron too. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #7
Check his twitter blimablam Dec 2017 #6
Another attention seeking asshole. He said the same thing about Trump, and then produced nothing still_one Dec 2017 #16
Tom Arnold always says he has proof of things. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #18
Then he need to put the information out. Blue_true Dec 2017 #19
Well Tom, either put up or shut up. Initech Dec 2017 #20
I think it's obvious by now that he got nothing. LisaL Dec 2017 #22
Sounds about right! Initech Dec 2017 #23
I dont understand. Tweeden provided the put up or shut up Nevernose Dec 2017 #25
But this isn't the first time Tom has said that he has evidence of something like this. Initech Dec 2017 #28
Arnold may be full of it but... OliverQ Dec 2017 #21
The Tweeden thing is not what caused him to need to resign DeltaLitProf Dec 2017 #24
"The subsequent claims by several women, Democrats among them, were the fatal blows." LenaBaby61 Dec 2017 #26
poor victim Tweeden KT2000 Dec 2017 #27

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
1. If Arnold is telling the truth and such evidence exists, one of two things:
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:15 PM
Dec 2017

A) Al Franken can sue for defamation and exonerate himself, or

B) Al Franken can make this a chapter for his new book and not fear that Tweeden will successfully sue for defamation herself as he would have the evidence that his contentions are true.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
11. No he can't. Fed Tort Claims act gives her immunity.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:24 PM
Dec 2017

Being a lawyer, she of course knew both that, and that she was depriving a lifelong Democrat, of his constitutional right to due process, so the truth could emerge.

Yeah, no hypocricy by her.

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
17. I don't get it.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:51 PM
Dec 2017

Here's the Federal Tort Claims Act: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Tort_Claims_Act

As the USO Tour happened before Al Franken was elected to the Senate, the FTCA wouldn't apply.

I don't understand why that statute could hinder Al Franken for suing her for defamation. I could understand if she were suing him for something she alleged he did while in office.

Plus, here's her bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeann_Tweeden

She hasn't gone to law school, let alone college. How is she a lawyer?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. He backtracked on that claim after speaking with her
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:16 PM
Dec 2017

And posted supportive comments about her on his twitter.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
15. Well, at least he is researching the facts now, which is
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:29 PM
Dec 2017

more than many people. Better late than never.

enough

(13,259 posts)
4. Isn't this the same guy who brags about super-incriminating tapes of Trump,
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:18 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:34 PM - Edit history (1)

which have somehow never become public? If he's got the evidence on Tweeden, now is the time.

blimablam

(121 posts)
6. Check his twitter
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:20 PM
Dec 2017

tom Arnold?Verified account
@TomArnold
Dec 6
To put a button on this the only truth about my old pal Leeann Tweeden’s Al Franken story was the picture. The rest was created by KABC colleague & fellow Trump supporter John Phillips & his bud Roger Stone who coached Leeann for weeks to take Al down. Mission accomplished.


tom Arnold?Verified account
@TomArnold
Dec 6
More Tom Arnold Retweeted Liberalarmy
I’ve gone to bat for Leeann 100 times this last month hoping she’d at least reveal her whole truth too but she ghosted me. I know every single detail of this political manipulation. KABC should lose their license. Promoting a fraud is a federal offense & FCC violation.

still_one

(92,191 posts)
16. Another attention seeking asshole. He said the same thing about Trump, and then produced nothing
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:33 PM
Dec 2017

Guess Arnold must have a lot of time on his hands since I haven't heard of any projects he has been in lately

Yes, it would be nice if it was true, but the credibility of Arnold doesn't help

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
18. Tom Arnold always says he has proof of things.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:54 PM
Dec 2017

It'd be nice if he actually showed us some of that proof.

He could maybe have stopped Trump if he'd shown the proof he said he had on that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Then he need to put the information out.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:30 PM
Dec 2017

This stuff about saying that information exist and not putting it out forcefully and immediately is why we always end up a step behind in the managing expectations war.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
22. I think it's obvious by now that he got nothing.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:06 PM
Dec 2017

Not the first time he claimed he had proof of something and never produced anything to support that.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
25. I dont understand. Tweeden provided the put up or shut up
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:40 AM
Dec 2017

From Salon, because I don’t want to give a right wing birther’s site more traffic:

Tweeden adds that "it didn't stop there." She says that after she fell asleep during the plane ride home, he groped her breasts. She was unaware of the alleged assault until sometime afterwards. "It wasn’t until I was back in the US and looking through the CD of photos we were given by the photographer that I saw this one" https://www.salon.com/2017/11/16/al-franken-leeann-tweeden-sexual-harassment/

Then she provided a picture which SHE SAID was NOT him actually groping her breasts, but pretending to. That means the first time she told her story, it was a LIE. Her story of being groped was not the truth and she gave us the pictures to prove it.

Then, as further proof of sexual assault, she literally provided the script for a play.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
28. But this isn't the first time Tom has said that he has evidence of something like this.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:33 AM
Dec 2017

He's repeatedly said that as a contestant on the Apprentice that he has footage of Trump saying some truly horrific things, even bordering on unfiltered racism, and has never put anything out to the contrary. And he's been saying this since two years ago. It seems like it's all bullshit at this point unless Tom can provide some actual incriminating evidence to support his claims.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
21. Arnold may be full of it but...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:03 PM
Dec 2017

We do know Roger Stone knew about the Tweeden story before it broke. We know Tweeden has been on Hannity's show at least 17 times and showed him the picture back in 2007. We know based on her twitter feed, she's close friends with Don Jr, Ivanka, and Jared. And we have proof of her squeezing a male singers butt at a USO tour concert without his permission and getting very sexual with Robin Williams.

I view her credibility as a victim at about zero, and it's obvious this was a right-wing hit job against a tough Senator who was giving Sessions issues.

DeltaLitProf

(769 posts)
24. The Tweeden thing is not what caused him to need to resign
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:29 AM
Dec 2017

The subsequent claims by several women, Democrats among them, were the fatal blows.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
26. "The subsequent claims by several women, Democrats among them, were the fatal blows."
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:49 AM
Dec 2017

Besides that slug Dupuy, is anyone 100% sure of the party affiliations of Franken's accusers 100%?

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