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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:59 PM Dec 2017

Has anyone heard a single voter say "I didn't vote for Trump, but I support him now?"

That has to be a rare individual, if one exists at all. Trump has done nothing to win over a single voter since his election.

I think that his base is around 33% (and of that, about 5% are people who never voted before and may never again). do you think there is an African-American who will say, "ya, you know, he's won me over?" or a woman? or a Latino?

Now, I'm not talking about every woman or minority. I'm talking about someone who was not taken in by this con man last year, but has converted to Trump since. That person does not exist.

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Has anyone heard a single voter say "I didn't vote for Trump, but I support him now?" (Original Post) louis c Dec 2017 OP
LOL osaMABUSh Dec 2017 #1
"That person does not exist". Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2017 #2
There are people that never vote, but have Trump's mindset. Thor_MN Dec 2017 #3
Kinda D_Master81 Dec 2017 #4
He brought a whole bunch of haters out of the closet...I am sure there are more who didn't vote but dembotoz Dec 2017 #5
Would they vote for Trump louis c Dec 2017 #6
I would not make that assumption dembotoz Dec 2017 #10
I ran into friends who voted Trump in 2016 louis c Dec 2017 #11
Sadly yes I have dembotoz Dec 2017 #13
That is rare, indeed louis c Dec 2017 #14
Hell No WE ARE SC13 Dec 2017 #7
Have not. That's a very interesting question to ponder. ffr Dec 2017 #8
Some people I know that definitely voted for tRump fail to defend him doc03 Dec 2017 #9
Maybe if they poll psychiatric facilities . . . Vinca Dec 2017 #12
no, his behavior has been so bad treestar Dec 2017 #15
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. There are people that never vote, but have Trump's mindset.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:11 PM
Dec 2017

Since they never vote, they don't matter much in terms of elections, but they do talk.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
4. Kinda
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:35 PM
Dec 2017

I know a guy who was a nevrr trump guy who is really a libertarian more than repub. But he said hes been surprised at trump. Says hed be a good president if he stayed off twitter.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
5. He brought a whole bunch of haters out of the closet...I am sure there are more who didn't vote but
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:12 PM
Dec 2017

Would now.
A huge number of potential voters stayed home for whatever reason.
Stupid to think they would all vote Hilary or hate trump

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
6. Would they vote for Trump
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:01 AM
Dec 2017

or not vote at all, or vote for a Libertarian?

I'm saying that a person went into the booth, didn't vote for Trump and now would. I don't think that person exists.

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
10. I would not make that assumption
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:54 AM
Dec 2017

We got stung assuming an hrc landslide.
Let's not do that again.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
11. I ran into friends who voted Trump in 2016
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:16 AM
Dec 2017

the point of the OP is not assumption.

I have run into people who regret voting for Trump, but I have not run into a soul who says the opposite. That's a statement of fact. Admittedly, anecdotal, but a fact none the less.

Has anyone here run into a single person who has said "I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but he's changed my mind. I'd vote for him today.'

That's not an assumption, it's a question.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
14. That is rare, indeed
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:15 AM
Dec 2017

Polling data would indicate that's very rare. Otherwise, Trump's numbers would be above 46% (his total in 2106), and even the most generous polls have him below that. Most polls have him in the 30's.

And before you remind me that the polls were off in 2016, may I contend that they weren't. The final polls had Hillary ahead by 3 points. She won by 2. The polls that now have trump in the low to mid 30's, even in they're off by a point or two, indicate that Trump has lost any soft support he had, and is picking few, if any, new voters. Your friend may be one of those few.

Oh, and another thing. I never assumed Hillary was a lock. I thought she was the favorite, but I personally told others (and I was working for Hillary in New Hampshire and I am a Democratic Party operative in Massachusetts), that we should just be locking down the victory by concentrating on the sates that get us above 270, and not worry about Arizona and Georgia. If you remember, she campaigned in those two states in late October. It's not that I am so smart, it's just that for what was at stake, we should never had taken anything for granted. Winning was important. The final score was meaningless.

doc03

(35,340 posts)
9. Some people I know that definitely voted for tRump fail to defend him
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:18 AM
Dec 2017

him now. They are embarrassed to admit they voted for him.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. no, his behavior has been so bad
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:19 AM
Dec 2017

as bad as thought. The only way that would have happened is if he had shut up and just laid low and let people give him credit for the stock market. He is incapable of not bragging and taking credit for things he had nothing to do with.

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