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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:19 AM Dec 2017

Please read.

Hey, DU, I just wanted to let y'all know I love ya. Its been very helpful to have a community of sane people to discuss with as the world goes bat shit. I have a lot of repug family members who defend the actions of the repulsive pile of human waste occupying the oval office. I've shed many tears after hearing those I love with all my heart defend that which I abhor with all my heart. You guys have at least helped me realize that this problem is not uncommon. Ever since I've been politically conscious (age 12) I've viewed conservatism as evil. The wars, the greed, the plain hatred for all that is different. I can't wrap my head around why people buy into it. My DU account is almost three years old now. Thanks Skinner and admin for keeping this thing running even through the hacks. Every day that goes by with since the tRump nightmare started, I feel I'm starting to slip more. I still can't believe this is actually happening, I cry whenever I hear Obama speaking now, even though I consider myself substantially to the left of him. I miss having a President that has a brain and actually gives a shit about the people. Barack is a wonderful man. My blood boils whenever I hear tRumps voice or some right wing ass hat defending him. I'm young so this is a very new experience to me. I was lucky enough to be quite young and oblivious during the shrub years. On top of all the trump shit, my anxiety caused me to develop vision problems. Thank God (and Doctors) for Zoloft. 2017 has been a shit year for me, although the end of '16 (after the election) was even worse. Thanks for keeping me at least a little bit sane. Bless you all.

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Please read. (Original Post) liberalnarb Dec 2017 OP
Right back atcha! MLAA Dec 2017 #1
Can relate to so much you said... thanks. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #2
howdi. can relate . been in a state of shock since last year . will get better. AllaN01Bear Dec 2017 #3
Hang in there! I sure know how you feel... Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #4
I saw that interview a few years ago. - Thanks liberalnarb Dec 2017 #6
I listened to it again today and it made me feel a little better Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #8
I listened to the interview and have a question... BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #9
David Allen is Skinner Salviati Dec 2017 #12
Skinner and EarlG started the site together Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #13
Wow. herding cats Dec 2017 #15
Oh boy, you missed my last post, LOL Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #17
Yeah great Interview yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #18
I remember it was pretty exciting at the time Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #19
Maybe its time for another interview yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #20
I certainly agree! Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #22
I think we should get more attention but I remember yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #23
I also agree on that - the last thing we need is negative attention Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #24
Rhiannon! sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #28
It sure makes a difference knowing you're not alone, doesn't it? Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #29
A pleasant and restful nite to you, dear one. ⭐😌🌙 sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #31
Same to you, my friend... Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #32
Keep the faith. oasis Dec 2017 #5
Trying. liberalnarb Dec 2017 #7
What a beautiful post. Thanks for being thankful. -nt Freelancer Dec 2017 #10
I know how you feel. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #11
liberalnarb, thanks for your post. pnwmom Dec 2017 #14
Hey, weve for your back. herding cats Dec 2017 #16
Great post....Thank you...We just have to all do our best during this Upthevibe Dec 2017 #21
same here - KT2000 Dec 2017 #25
Take heart, liberalnarb. dchill Dec 2017 #26
Just: sprinkleeninow Dec 2017 #27
Zoloft and I go way back. MFM008 Dec 2017 #30
Its a life saver in these times. liberalnarb Dec 2017 #33
Describes my feelings exactly jimlup Dec 2017 #34

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
4. Hang in there! I sure know how you feel...
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:57 AM
Dec 2017

I found DU in 2003 - after being completely freaked out by 9/11 - and DU and the kindred spirits here have taught me so much and helped keep me sane ever since. I happened across this video from 2011 in my travels today and thought you might be interested. It's a Young Turks interview with David Allen - Skinner - on how he and EarlG started DU and what it's been like, much different and better than expected. I knew the DUer who set it up. Hope that helps give you a little background and reassures you that we're here to stay...


Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
8. I listened to it again today and it made me feel a little better
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:01 AM
Dec 2017

So I wanted to pass it on if you hadn't seen it...

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
9. I listened to the interview and have a question...
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:35 AM
Dec 2017

when did Skinner start here? He isn't mentioned at all. Now I know how to pronounce Daily KOS (I have been pronouncing it "CHAOS" like in the old Get Smart TV series and the evil "Russian" spy organization "KAOS".

I am tech retarded and got a touch screen tablet since I am home sick in bed a lot now and I discovered DU in Jan or Feb during my anti-moron and anti-Russia activities which I began in Oct. 2016. I am still tech retarded and am still trying to figure out how to copy and post pictures. I finally learned how to copy videos and links. Teaching myself is really frustrating and time consuming. Most people below the age of 10 have been doing it their entire lives.

I use DU for super current news (real and factual) from a zillion legit sources and from people who live outside of my blue state and city. Also, people on DU usually know a lot more about history, political science, civics, etc. than I do. Since my family, friends and coworkers are Dems it helps to find out what others experience with their GOP friends and local communities. I live in a blue bubble sometimes (I am not complaining...far from it in fact).

Thanks for posting!

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
12. David Allen is Skinner
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:03 AM
Dec 2017

He used to have a picture of Principal Skinner from The Simpsons as his avatar, until I believe he got a Cease and Desist letter telling him to take it down.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
13. Skinner and EarlG started the site together
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:04 AM
Dec 2017

On Inauguration Day back in 2001 (George Bush*'s inauguration), they stood outside the Today Show with a large banner that said democraticunderground.com - and that was the launch of DU. And it's obviously grown exponentially ever since. I didn't find DU until about two years later, but I've heard the story.

And posting photos isn't that hard - I learned how to do it right here on DU. I started using Photobucket - since that's what was suggested to me at the time - but you can post any photo if you have the right url. If there's a pic you want to post, right click on it and copy the image address. Then you can paste it. Not every image address works - you want to use one with a .jpg or .png extension. And I always preview any photo I post to make sure it works and that it's not too large. And I am definitely tech challenged myself.

I had a dentist appointment on 9/11 - just a cleaning I think - but it seemed like I sat there for hours, watching the TV the dentist had turned to CNN, seeing that second plane hit, over and over and over. I walked out of there scared witless, thinking the world was about to end. I was with my mother and we stopped to vote on the way home - it was primary day here in New York - but the place (school) was deserted.

I'd always voted, mostly for Democrats, but I realized then that I needed to know a whole lot more about what was really happening in this country - and the world. So I started reading and looking things up - and I eventually found DU, was told about it by a friend who was more politically savvy than I was.

Since then I've learned so much from the smart and well connected folks here. I worked for my congressman on two political campaigns and I'm addicted to news shows that would have previously put me to sleep. And I have learned that my oldest friends - some I've known since I was a kid - are fellow liberals and equally proactive. And if anyone wants to know anything - I have one newer friend who had never voted before the 2016 election - they certainly know that all they have to do is ask...

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
15. Wow.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:11 AM
Dec 2017

It’s strange to look back in time to when we felt like that, huh?

That feels like decades ago now. At least to me now it does.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
17. Oh boy, you missed my last post, LOL
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:19 AM
Dec 2017

I just answered the question about how DU started and how I found my way here (#13).

But you are absolutely right. Now, I pay attention to absolutely everything. What's hard for me to believe is how quickly things changed. It was only a year ago that we felt like this country was headed in the right direction - and now I'm a nervous wreck, wondering what the unexpected and disheartening news is going to be today.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
19. I remember it was pretty exciting at the time
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:02 AM
Dec 2017

A DUer who was working for TYT - got a job there after he'd been on DU for quite awhile - arranged the interview which he thought was quite important. I hate reading the awful FR-type comments on YouTube, but I agree it was a terrific interview.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
22. I certainly agree!
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:12 AM
Dec 2017

The thing is, I just looked up the DUer who arranged the interview and he hasn't posted since 2012 - and I have no idea what he's doing now. But I agree that Skinner acquits himself very well - but from what he said back in 2011, it sounds like he thinks it's sufficient for DU and its members to speak for DU, unlike other sites we're all aware of.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
23. I think we should get more attention but I remember
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:15 AM
Dec 2017

When the website was hacked, and that's not the kind of attention we need. But with the atmosphere the way it is, under the Trump Administration, i could see that happening again, but with far more damage... I really don't know what the answer is, to keep out the trolls, but It be nice to have more backing from folks who normally don't pay that much attention to the news and to Politics in general.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
24. I also agree on that - the last thing we need is negative attention
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:26 AM
Dec 2017

I'm on MIRT and we've seen very few Trump supporters - but we definitely want to keep it that way. And I can attest to the fact that everybody who signs up is thoroughly checked out. The best way is probably word-of-mouth. I was told about DU by a friend - who was told about it by like-minded friends - and I've also suggested DU to those I know who feel the same way I do. I know people who feel the same way we do right now and I suggested they might feel better knowing they're far from alone - even if they just choose to read, rather than participate.

sprinkleeninow

(20,249 posts)
28. Rhiannon!
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:58 AM
Dec 2017

Hello love,

Thank you for posting this!

I joined up (with a different user name) back in '01 or '02 due to shrub, the mad cowboy. Also having 11 September throw me for a loop.

DU, a community of like minds and of one accord pretty much. A treasure trove of knowledge and my go-to place for news.

Appreciate the video.
Again, thanks so very much.

~sprink💛

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
29. It sure makes a difference knowing you're not alone, doesn't it?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:08 AM
Dec 2017

That's one of the beauties of DU, plus all the knowledge I've gained from people here who know much more than I do. DU really is an amazing resource...

Good to see you, too, my friend!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
14. liberalnarb, thanks for your post.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:10 AM
Dec 2017

It's the younger people like you that I worry about the most. Please never give up. What we are going through IS awful and like nothing I've experienced before, but I promise there are millions of us who are on your side, and on the side of all the young people who have to grow up in this world.

And I really believe that President Obama, and Hillary, and Joe and all the rest are quietly doing what they can, too.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
16. Hey, weve for your back.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:11 AM
Dec 2017

We’re all feeling it, and suffering through it right along with you.

Every word you said resonated with me, and so many of us here. You’re in good company.

Together we’ve got this.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
21. Great post....Thank you...We just have to all do our best during this
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:10 AM
Dec 2017

extremely difficult time. I'd never heard that interview with Skinner so I'm really glad it was posted.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
26. Take heart, liberalnarb.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:38 AM
Dec 2017

Take heart. Live your life. Trump is 71 and ODs on McDonald's. This can't last - it's and artificial majority. Cutting Social Security and Medicare will be their downfall.

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