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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:50 AM Dec 2017

Schumer, Gillibrand Co-Sponsor Senate Bill That Would Make Boycotting Israel A Felony

Pieces of the puzzle? I'm still trying to understand Schumer's role in forcing Franken out.

http://gothamist.com/2017/07/19/schumer_gillibrand_co-sponsor_senat.php



Both of New York's Senators have signed on to a bill that would criminalize any attempt by Americans to boycott Israel, according to a new report.

According to The Intercept, Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand are among 43 U.S. Senators who have co-sponsored the Anti-Israel Boycott Act, a bill that the ACLU wote is "antithetical to free speech protections enshrined in the First Amendment" in a letter to lawmakers urging them to oppose the bill.

The Senate bill appears to target the Boycott, Divest and Sanction movement that seeks to pressure Israel to end its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip through economic isolation. Under the terms of the bill, a pair of U.S. laws that prohibit U.S. citizens from supporting a boycott request from a foreign government against an ally of the United States would be updated to specifically prohibit Americans from supporting international boycott efforts against Israel.

Violators of the law "would be subject to a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison" according to the ACLU's letter.

Schumer and Gillibrand aren't New York's first Democratic politicians who've embraced #TheResistance while simultaneously attacking BDS activists. As part of Andrew Cuomo's Definitely Not Running For President efforts, the governor issued an executive order earlier this year instructing the state of New York to boycott any business that supports the BDS movement.

"If you boycott against Israel, New York will boycott you. If you divert revenues from Israel, New York will divert revenues from you. If you sanction Israel, New York will sanction you, period," Cuomo said when he signed the order.

Speaking in the Senate on French President Emmanuel Macron's support of Israel earlier this week, Senator Schumer criticized the BDS movement as anti-Semitic.

"Anti-Zionism, unfortunately, continues to bubble up in many different forms. There is perhaps no greater example than the pernicious effort to delegitimize Israel through boycotts, divestment, and sanctions. The BDS movement is a deeply biased campaign that I would say, in similar words to Mr. Macron, is a 'reinvented form of anti-Semitism' because it seeks to impose boycotts on Israel and not on any other nation.

Senator Gillibrand did not respond to requests for comment about their support of the bill.
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Schumer, Gillibrand Co-Sponsor Senate Bill That Would Make Boycotting Israel A Felony (Original Post) flamingdem Dec 2017 OP
Infuriating. Nt liberalnarb Dec 2017 #1
This bill isn't really much different than current law tammywammy Dec 2017 #2
Thanks, this isn't anything new then - started in 1977 flamingdem Dec 2017 #4
In my annual training it covers this. tammywammy Dec 2017 #7
I agree with the ACLU. RDANGELO Dec 2017 #3
Who the fuck do they think they represent?! 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2017 #5
Good point. Now there's a clue to the Franken action flamingdem Dec 2017 #6
They represent a state with the largest Jewish population, delisen Dec 2017 #18
BDS movement IS anti semitic JI7 Dec 2017 #8
Thanks, don't know anything about them. flamingdem Dec 2017 #9
Were boycotts against the apartheid South African govt anti white? Cicada Dec 2017 #14
The Findings of Congress seem batshit crazy Nevernose Dec 2017 #10
Very interesting. Obviously the Israel issue is near and dear to people on different parts flamingdem Dec 2017 #11
These people do NOT represent me ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #12
Many of us are having flamingdem Dec 2017 #13
I wondered if Schumer might be behind the Franken move. ucrdem Dec 2017 #15
As the senate minority leader Schumer was in a position to delisen Dec 2017 #19
Gillibrand WITHDREW cosponsorship in August. Old article. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #16
SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND WITHDRAWS SUPPORT FOR ANTI-BDS BILL oberliner Dec 2017 #17
Direct link to co sponsors of the bill ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #22
Those two are winning friends shanny Dec 2017 #20
What is "Zionism" here? Bradical79 Dec 2017 #21

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
2. This bill isn't really much different than current law
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:56 AM
Dec 2017

Currently you cannot do business with a foreign company that requires you to boycott Israel.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_598d0d5de4b0ed1f464c09c1
The Israel Anti-Boycott Act was introduced to reinforce bipartisan consensus that boycotting Israel is inimical to U.S. foreign policy interests. The Act simply extends existing U.S. law prohibiting participation in boycotts led by foreign governments against Israel to include boycotts led by international governmental organizations such as the United Nations and the European Unio

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. Thanks, this isn't anything new then - started in 1977
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:01 AM
Dec 2017

A little background though, might be a clue there somewhere.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
7. In my annual training it covers this.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:11 AM
Dec 2017

We cannot contract or do business with anyone that also requires us to boycott Israel. For example if we're contracting with a company in Saudi Arabia we can't agree to a stipulation that says no parts or whatever won't come from Israel or that we as a company won't do business with Israel.

If we as a company didn't want to do business with Israel that's not against the law. Even with this new law you aren't forced to do business with anyone.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
6. Good point. Now there's a clue to the Franken action
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:03 AM
Dec 2017

that seems, by news accounts, to have been initiated by Gillibrand and enforced by Schumer.

They don't remember that they represent us, do they.

delisen

(6,043 posts)
18. They represent a state with the largest Jewish population,
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:44 AM
Dec 2017

many with strong feelings about Israel's chances for survival.

Schumer also pressed Trump to make the recent announcement about recognition of Jerusalem as capital of Israel.

Although Schumer is Senate Minority Leader he is also senator representing New Yorkers.

I think this is a political reality.

Joseph Biden represented the interests of the Banking Credit Card industry because it is the major industry and employer in Delaware.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. BDS movement IS anti semitic
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:14 AM
Dec 2017

this has nothing to do with their pushing Franken out which had more to do with them wanting to grandstand and appear pure .

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
9. Thanks, don't know anything about them.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:20 AM
Dec 2017

I'm interested in figuring out whether Schumer and Gillibrand have a pact and if he was / is pushing her to run in 2020

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
14. Were boycotts against the apartheid South African govt anti white?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:29 AM
Dec 2017

Or were they just anti discrimination? If Israel built a plant spewing out massive amounts of fluorocarbons expanding the ozone hole above Antarctica would a blockade of Israeli exports be anti Semitic? Or just anti ozone hole? Most Jews disagree with many policies of the Israeli government. Are they anti Semitic? I think Jews are great. I also think some of the policies of The Israeli government are horrible. Calling me anti Semitic is absurd.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
10. The Findings of Congress seem batshit crazy
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:32 AM
Dec 2017

The “Findings of Congress” seem batshit crazy

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) The United Nations Human Rights Council (in this section referred to as the “UNHRC”) has long targeted Israel with systematic, politically motivated, assaults on its legitimacy designed to stigmatize and isolate Israel internationally.

(2) The UNHRC maintains a permanent agenda item known as “Item 7” to ensure that Israel will be criticized at every gathering of the UNHRC.

(3) At its 31st session on March 24, 2016, the UNHRC targeted Israel with a commercial boycott, calling for the establishment of a database, such as a “blacklist”, of companies that operate, or have business relations with entities that operate, beyond Israel’s 1949 Armistice lines, including East Jerusalem.

(4) At its 32nd session in March 2017, the UNHRC is considering a resolution pursuant to agenda item 7 to withhold assistance from and prevent trade with “territories occupied since 1967”, including East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Golan Heights, stating that businesses that engage in economic activity in those areas could face civil or criminal legal action.

(5) For a half century, Congress has combated anti-Israel boycotts and other discriminatory activity under the Export Administration Act of 1979 (as continued in effect pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)), under part VI of title X of the Tax Reform Act of 1976 (Public Law 94–455; 90 Stat. 1649) (commonly referred to as the “Ribicoff Amendment”), in free trade agreements with Bahrain and Oman, and in Saudi Arabia’s accession negotiations to the World Trade Organization.

(6) The recent action of the UNHRC is reminiscent of the Arab League Boycott, which also called for the establishment of a “blacklist” and promoted a primary, as well as a secondary and tertiary, boycott against Israel, targeting United States and other companies that trade or invest with or in Israel, designed to harm Israel, any business operating in, or doing business with, Israel, or companies that do business with companies operating in Israel.

(7) Congress recently passed anti-boycott, divestment, and sanctions measures in the Bipartisan Congressional Trade Priorities and Accountability Act of 2015 (19 U.S.C. 4201 et seq.) and section 909 of the Trade Facilitation and Trade Enforcement Act of 2015 (19 U.S.C. 4452), which establish, among other things—

(A) the opposition of the United States to actions to boycott, divest from, or sanction Israel;

(B) requirements that the United States utilize trade negotiations to combat state-led or international governmental organization-led actions to boycott, divest from, or sanction Israel; and

(C) reporting requirements regarding the actions of foreign countries or international organizations that establish barriers to trade or investment for United States companies in or with Israel.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22israel+anti-boycott+act%22%5D%7D&r=2

I joined DU mostly to argue in support of Israel. True story. I realize now that at times I was wrong, and the more wrong that Israel’s government became, the more wrong I became. I should have listened to my Dad. I’ve talked here before about how he went to Hebrew school with Sheldon Adelson, how they were as close to “friends” as an asshole like Adelson can be (at least as kids), shit like that. I should have listened to him when he said that, especially since 1967, Zionists were the biggest crooks of all — and that’s coming from a guy who made life decisions based on Bugsy Siegel’s decisions.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
11. Very interesting. Obviously the Israel issue is near and dear to people on different parts
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:35 AM
Dec 2017

of the political spectrum. I'll admit that I don't understand it as well as I should. Many of us don't. Into those spaces of ignorance the "biggest crooks" run their games.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. Many of us are having
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:40 AM
Dec 2017

and identity crisis.

Who wants to identify with this kind of behavior - and on top of that we don't
even know the real motivation - they'll try not to talk about it anymore

delisen

(6,043 posts)
19. As the senate minority leader Schumer was in a position to
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:55 AM
Dec 2017

all other senators they needed to get on board with the strategy on Franken....or else.

Last year Schumer backed Sanders plan to focus on white male Trump voters in rust belt states and gave Sanders a role in Senate leadership; after the female voter driven victories, he is backing Gillebrand's zero tolerance plan. Notably Sanders joined in against Franken.



MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
16. Gillibrand WITHDREW cosponsorship in August. Old article.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:30 AM
Dec 2017

Not that anyone should be giving Greenwald or the intercept any clicks these days.

But I guess it’s all about the pile on.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND WITHDRAWS SUPPORT FOR ANTI-BDS BILL
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:03 AM
Dec 2017
WASHINGTON — In a rare move and after facing criticism at town hall meetings, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat, withdrew her sponsorship of an anti-BDS bill.

A search of the congressional website on Wednesday showed that Gillibrand withdrew her sponsorship. Asked for comment, her spokesman, Glen Caplin, said Gillibrand remains opposed to the movement to boycott, divest from and sanction Israel, and supported the bill’s intentions, but is concerned that its critics are concluding that the bill would impinge on civil liberties.

http://www.jpost.com/BDS-THREAT/Sen-Kirsten-Gillibrand-withdraws-support-for-anti-BDS-bill-501486
 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
21. What is "Zionism" here?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:01 AM
Dec 2017

My only understanding of Zionism is what I had learned as an Evangelical Christian, which is Israel was given to the Jewish people by God, so they have a right to the land above all others. It's a religious thing, with Jews being placed above all others as the chosen people of God. Being an Atheist, that is an idea I find rather abhorent, as others had made Israel home for many generations. By what I had learned, I am defenitely anti-Zionist.

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