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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:23 AM Dec 2017

No Good Outcomes for Republicans In Alabama

December 9, 2017 at 1:52 pm EST By Taegan Goddard

Dan Balz: “For Republicans, there likely can be no truly good outcome. If Moore wins, the party will have preserved the seat but will be saddled with a new senator under a cloud of allegations, including assaulting a teenager many years ago as well as a pattern of pursuing teenagers half his age when he was in his 30s. If he wins and is sworn in, he probably will face an ethics investigation that will keep the controversy alive until his fate is resolved and perhaps much longer than that. For the Republicans, it’s a hot mess.”

“If Moore loses, the GOP would be spared his presence in the Senate. But the result will have inflamed the anti-establishment forces led by former White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, deepening antagonisms that continue to roil the party… Additionally, a Jones victory would put the Republican majority at greater risk in 2018.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2017/12/09/no-good-outcomes-republicans-alabama/

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No Good Outcomes for Republicans In Alabama (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP

I get your point, but what if Moore wins and the GOP accepts him in the Senate. SummerSnow Dec 2017 #1

I don't think they plan to have an ethics investigation for him. LisaL Dec 2017 #4

I agree, but disagree. theaocp Dec 2017 #9

It will be very interesting to see what the Repugs do if he wins. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #2

Welcome him to the Senate, what else? LisaL Dec 2017 #5

McConnell: "Please allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your victory dalton99a Dec 2017 #7

Being shameless has worked well for the republicans so far. comradebillyboy Dec 2017 #3

There is a lot of wishful thinking going around. LisaL Dec 2017 #6

I think he and the gop knows he can win but is still toast Alea Dec 2017 #8

The Pedo Party will lose big time if this scumbag wins. roamer65 Dec 2017 #10

Republicans are shameless, at least as an institution MatthewG. Dec 2017 #11

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)

1. I get your point, but what if Moore wins and the GOP accepts him in the Senate.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:27 AM

Dec 2017

They would ignore all the accusations, dodge questions, no ethics committee.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

4. I don't think they plan to have an ethics investigation for him.

Reply to SummerSnow (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:39 AM

Dec 2017

What he is accused of happened long before he run for Senate. Their normal practice is to investigate something that happened while in office.

theaocp

(4,237 posts)

9. I agree, but disagree.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:13 PM

Dec 2017

The Republicans don't give a flying fuck about "ethics", so who's going to hold them accountable? The press? Laugh along with me.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)

2. It will be very interesting to see what the Repugs do if he wins.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:18 AM

Dec 2017

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

5. Welcome him to the Senate, what else?

Reply to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:39 AM

Dec 2017

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)

7. McConnell: "Please allow me to be the first to congratulate you on your victory

Reply to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:42 AM

Dec 2017

and to welcome you to our Republican caucus"

comradebillyboy

(10,151 posts)

3. Being shameless has worked well for the republicans so far.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:36 AM

Dec 2017

Why would they change? I think Balz is suffering from wishful thinking.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)

6. There is a lot of wishful thinking going around.

Reply to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:40 AM

Dec 2017

Alea

(706 posts)

8. I think he and the gop knows he can win but is still toast

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:05 PM

Dec 2017

To me, it's telling that the gop withdrew support last month but are now back on board. In the current climate, why get back on board just to save that seat? My uninformed guess is that because these allegations came so close to the special election, it put them in an impossible situation, because of rules, they can't get someone else on the rep ticket. That being a dirty trick in their minds, hatched their own dirty trick, and made a deal with him. Win the election, get seated in the Senate, and then resign to allow the Governor to appoint Strange to the seat. Still makes Alabama rep voters look bad but allows Senate gop to look like they did the right thing.

Tomorrow is the big day. I'll be voting for Jones and hoping we win so it becomes a non issue, and reps still have to eat crow for throwing their support back in for moore, and lost.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

10. The Pedo Party will lose big time if this scumbag wins.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:22 PM

Dec 2017

MatthewG.

(362 posts)

11. Republicans are shameless, at least as an institution

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:51 PM

Dec 2017

At an individual level, some Republicans feel the pangs of shame and have a conscience, but at a national level, they’re immune to both.

In fact, movement conservatism is pretty much predicated on the principle of obnoxious shamelessness ; Donald Trump succeeded in the Republican Party because his obnoxious narcissism built on a culture created by Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter, etc, in which being a shameless, sociopathic, jerk is seen as strength. All of movement conservatism is based on loudly rejecting the values of nuance, moderation, and modesty.

Point being, it was inevitable the contemporary GOP would eventually back a child molester, just as they will eventually welcome him if he wins. To do otherwise would be to look “weak” and “compromising” in the face of consensus opinion.

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