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The party will either pick up a seat in the Deep South or have Roy Moore to campaign against in the midterms.
By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE 12/10/2017 06:51 AM EST
Democrats head into Tuesdays Senate election in Alabama confident that they'll come out on top no matter who wins. And many Republicans agree with them.
If Doug Jones prevails, Democrats expect it will further excite their base, bolster candidate recruitment and fuel fundraising heading into 2018, coming off their near-sweep of last month's elections. They will revel in picking up a Senate seat in the Deep South, especially in a state so central to President Donald Trumps political rise and where he earlier backed the loser of the GOP primary. Practically, Republicans would have a 51-49 Senate majority, leaving them with a single vote to spare assuming Democrats stick together. But the alternative won't make for bad politics, either, Democrats say.
If Roy Moore wins, they'll spend the next year yoking every Republican they can to the accused child predator and a president who welcomed him into the GOP fold. They'll be quick to remind everyone of all the other comments Moore has made against Muslims and gays and in favor of Vladimir Putins view of America as evil, as well as his rosy view of slave-era America.
Hell be the gift that keeps on giving for Democrats. If youre running in 2018, Roy Moores going to be your new best friend. As a Republican, to think that you can win without the baggage of Roy Moore is pretty naïve, said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).
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bench scientist
(1,107 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)and not just because of his past shenanigans. "Teen Beat" is the gift that keeps on giving. And we thought Cruz and Gohmert were nuts. This guy is a super duper, high powered, attack ad generator against every Rethuglican nationwide. Between him and shit gibbon, their brand may be so severely damaged, it's beyond repair.....well, outside of certain, isolated shit holes that is.
fallout87
(819 posts)Voters will have forgotten about Moore's history by the time midterms come around. There will be so much going on nationally that it won't take front and center.
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Not imaginary win, or win by losing.
carterbob251
(33 posts)JimBeard
(293 posts)As we plunge once more into a national debate over sex, power, assault and morality, many hope this will finally be the watershed moment in which a full reckoning will take place. Weve been here before, though, and weve seen such hopes fade and get overtaken by self-interested partisan political fights. And its happening again.
Lets recall the fall of 1991. The nation was transfixed by the confirmation hearings of the conservative African American jurist Clarence Thomas, whom President George H.W. Bush had nominated to be an associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Nearing the end of what had already been a lengthy review by the Senate Judiciary Committee, a written statement sent confidentially to staffers for the committee chair, Senator Joe Biden (D-Del.), was leaked to the press. According to the statements writer, a law professor named Anita Hill who had worked for Thomas some years earlier, the nominee had a taste for hard-core pornography and a penchant for discussing it and other sexual matters with subordinates in the workplace, or at least with her; working under these conditions had made her extremely uncomfortable. These allegations of sexual harassment threatened to derail Thomass nomination and ruin his personal and professional reputation
Lets examine this. Who is doing the same job and who is the Supreme court Justice still after 1991?
Bill Clinton was accused but remained President.
Donald Trump was accused but won anyway.
Roy Moore is most likely to win.
This is not a good election strategy.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)nonsense...it merely means, the other side has another vote and you don't.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)Bettie
(16,110 posts)evangelical and a republican.
Her response to Moore? "Well, it wasn't my daughter, so why should I care."
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Bettie
(16,110 posts)and I never want to have it again.
Her position on that is that if you have sex, ever, you are accepting the possibility of pregnancy.
If you are raped and become pregnant, you should accept it as a gift from god.
If your pregnancy endangers your life, you should keep going because clearly, that fetus has an important purpose in life and will do fine without a mother. If you have other children, well, they will be fine, because their father can remarry and they will have another mother.
If you are carrying a fetus with anomalies incompatible with life, pray for a miracle and accept that you are being punished for past sins.
Oh, and when I had my full term stillbirth? It was because I am an agnostic, "God" was punishing me for my lack of faith. When I had my three miscarriages, same thing. When I had my three living children? "God" was giving me a chance to repent.
I can't even talk to her about this anymore, because it enrages me. I need to interact with her for some things I am involved in, so I can't scream at her, but I avoid her as much as I possibly can without being truly rude.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)The argument she made regarding Moore is that if it didn't affect her personally she shouldn't care.
Why does she care if someone else were to have an abortion? That has no effect on her.
Bettie
(16,110 posts)everyone should be forced to adhere to her beliefs.
She also believes that non-Christians should be forced to "see the light of Jesus"...also, Catholics are "non-Christians".
She's a nutjob, but I have to deal with her several times a year, so I just smile and nod and scream inside my head. A lot.
dalton99a
(81,513 posts)I actually heard that on AM radio last week - and similar refrains, many accusing liberals of paying the women
Locrian
(4,522 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)We've never seen a President with such bad numbers since such polling began. The damage is done and the continued stupidity of Rethugs in Congress is making it worse. Virginia....The Dems flipped 30+ delegate seats which didn't appear even remotely possible months and weeks before the election.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)losing control of both House and Senate. He's not a king, though he may think he is.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)We need to win the old fashioned way- by actually winning.
hatrack
(59,587 posts).