saying denial means you haven't done it, I wonder how Franken would have fared. What am I thinking? The double standard is there and he would have been dissed for that, too.

The intention is to get past the excuses to the truth.

If your bar for what deserves a hearing is weather or not others can make excuses you set the bar far too low in my opinion.

all sides were denied the chance to find that out which again is why we have due process to begin with.

Thems the facts.

Or when there is overwhelming evidence.

This is neither of those.

What does Moore have to do with Franken? That is exactly the trap Gillibrand and co fell into.

And for the life of me I can't figure out why so many want to let them manipulate us like this. They should not be the basis for our decisions. They're irrelevant.

or the country.

Oh, from an opposition party that never opposed anything. We didn't challenge election 2000 or the Ohio results of 2004. We looked forward on a president who took the country to war based on lies. We quietly watched as state legislatures turned red & gerrymandered us out of the House for a decade. We didn't utter a peep about a stolen SCOTUS nom, and if the dems ever have any influence again, which is doubtful, they will play nice, again, in the name of healing the country. They don't know how to fight, or they don't want to. Same result, either way.

The Koch's will pour a mountain of cash into the upcoming MN races. Nice work dems! We're in a fight for our country & you kicked one of our best bulldogs to the curb. What will they do if there are new anonymous reports about other dems from red states where the GOP governor gets to select the replacement? Would the GOP be so brazen as to do that? Why the hell not? Who the fuck has stopped them for 35 years?

I'm 60 years old and very angry with the party. They'll get my vote, yeah even Gillibrand, if she's the nom, but no more money, no more GOTV. We are on a very dark path & we need a party that will fight a foe that has thrown the rule book in the trash. Get in the ring & learn to fight!

I read this on FB a few weeks ago: If you've ever wondered what you would have done in 1930s Germany, you're doing it, now.

Not only that, but the accusers in Franken's case were a
rightwing birther coached by Roger Stone and co., and
a very strange woman who's photo with Al showed
nothing.

The rest were anonymous.

Smell test -- fail.

Persons who make accusations of misconduct deserve to be heard and taken seriously, but we should allow the person accused a chance to rebut those claims before punishing him/her simply on the word of another.

I thought that was the way we did things here in America.

And every time we lose, we go more to the right, which is a mistake.

And the Dem party is like herding cats.

The GOP is tightly bound together on a the desire for money and power, greed and corruption.
Dems do not have the single unifying thread. ??

He was not fired. He waived due process and quit.

Times 1000.