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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts) Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:24 AM Dec 2017

Would you support Kirsten Gillibrand in the 2020 presidential primary?

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Would you support Kirsten Gillibrand in the 2020 presidential primary? (Original Post) MoonRiver Dec 2017 OP

Not just No, but Hell NO!! femmocrat Dec 2017 #1

+1 n/t. rzemanfl Dec 2017 #4

Agree Rene Dec 2017 #10

+1!!!! nt jrthin Dec 2017 #28

Took the words right off my keyboard RandomAccess Dec 2017 #30

Next, please. PubliusEnigma Dec 2017 #2

Depends on the field caraher Dec 2017 #3

I'll support whoever the nominee is in the General. moriah Dec 2017 #5

I didn't see a HELL NO option workinclasszero Dec 2017 #6

This. n/t Different Drummer Dec 2017 #32

I believe she's conservative at heart, her past voting record Hortensis Dec 2017 #7

Voted "No." And I was a huge supporter of hers before. mainer Dec 2017 #8

I think she's shown herself to be an opportunist flamingdem Dec 2017 #9

It depends on who she is running against. CTyankee Dec 2017 #11

It seems that on this forum Roy Moore is more popular than her crazycatlady Dec 2017 #12

FFS. demmiblue Dec 2017 #14

Roy Moore is not 'popular' here, so please retire that ridiculous talking point ASAP emulatorloo Dec 2017 #15

Well, I doubt Roy Moore will run against her in a primary... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #17

What nonsense ornotna Dec 2017 #21

It's shocking. And they are doing the same exact thing that they accuse Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #34

If it makes you feel better I wouldnt cross over and vote for Vogon_Glory Dec 2017 #35

The only person with his head on a stick is liberal dem Senator Al Franken workinclasszero Dec 2017 #38

Never. democratisphere Dec 2017 #13

Depends on who the other candidates are and what comradebillyboy Dec 2017 #16

Probably a moot point. lpbk2713 Dec 2017 #18

And I think this poll of her base, admittedly just a small data point, demonstrates why. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #20

Nope. nt cwydro Dec 2017 #19

Not right now treestar Dec 2017 #22

It's a hypothetic poll. I don't know if she will run. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #24

What about the obnoxiousdrunk Dec 2017 #23

She's the ring leader. I think a poll including them all would be a little bit too much. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #25

Nope HipChick Dec 2017 #26

If I conclude that she is the best choice, yes. nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #27

+1000 Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #33

NO! hurple Dec 2017 #29

There are other candidates that are light years better. roamer65 Dec 2017 #31

Depends on what the rest of the field looks like. Morris64 Dec 2017 #36

+1000 Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #41

Not in the primary mindfulNJ Dec 2017 #37

Not only NO... fallout87 Dec 2017 #39

Yep on Kamala. femmocrat Dec 2017 #44

As VP. djg21 Dec 2017 #40

I will choose the best candidate that I think has the best chance to win in the general....PERIOD. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #42

nope Skittles Dec 2017 #43

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)

1. Not just No, but Hell NO!!

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:28 AM

Dec 2017

She burned all her bridges this past week.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)

4. +1 n/t.

Reply to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:30 AM

Dec 2017

Rene

(1,183 posts)

10. Agree

Reply to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:39 AM

Dec 2017

jrthin

(4,836 posts)

28. +1!!!! nt

Reply to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:47 PM

Dec 2017

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)

30. Took the words right off my keyboard

Reply to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:41 PM

Dec 2017

PubliusEnigma

(1,583 posts)

2. Next, please.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:28 AM

Dec 2017

caraher

(6,278 posts)

3. Depends on the field

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:30 AM

Dec 2017

I do think she could be an effective candidate.

I also disagree with what she's done to Franken and think it's been bad for the party. I don't find it automatically disqualifying, though.

moriah

(8,311 posts)

5. I'll support whoever the nominee is in the General.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:31 AM

Dec 2017

"And that's all I have to say about that."

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

6. I didn't see a HELL NO option

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:33 AM

Dec 2017

So I went with no.

I will vote for the democrat that wins the nom but I sure hope it ain't her!

Different Drummer

(7,617 posts)

32. This. n/t

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:47 PM

Dec 2017

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

7. I believe she's conservative at heart, her past voting record

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:34 AM

Dec 2017

shows that. Yes, there are plenty of conservatives in the Democratic Party, and I'm not saying she doesn't belong here, any more than I'd say left-wring radicals who register Democrat don't, it's their choice.

I am saying that there's no chance real liberals who share my values and goals won't be running, so no chance I wouldn't vote for one of them.

mainer

(12,022 posts)

8. Voted "No." And I was a huge supporter of hers before.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:35 AM

Dec 2017

Very sorry to see what happened to Franken.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)

9. I think she's shown herself to be an opportunist

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:37 AM

Dec 2017

in regards to Franken. From her viewpoint perhaps it looked rational to fire one of our best talents because he attempted to kiss someone and grabbed someone's waist.

This kind of thinking isn't good enough to win the presidency. I believe we'd lose with her and she's not a strong candidate. Too bad Schumer thought so.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)

11. It depends on who she is running against.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:40 AM

Dec 2017

He very innocently fell into a puke trap. There was a photo of him that one of the trumpsters had. I believe they cooked up this whole plot. I would welcome an investigation so that more truth will come out and Al will be absolved. Already I am seeing plenty of evidence that this was a put up deal with the pukes to have a "whatabout" stick to beat us with. Gillibrand just took away that stick.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)

12. It seems that on this forum Roy Moore is more popular than her

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:40 AM

Dec 2017

I've never seen people turn against one of their own the way they have with her.

I guess people here would cheer Trump bringing her head on a stick.

demmiblue

(36,858 posts)

14. FFS.

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:07 PM

Dec 2017

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)

15. Roy Moore is not 'popular' here, so please retire that ridiculous talking point ASAP

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:09 PM

Dec 2017

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)

17. Well, I doubt Roy Moore will run against her in a primary...

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:11 PM

Dec 2017

so, irrelevant point taken.

ornotna

(10,801 posts)

21. What nonsense

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:17 PM

Dec 2017

That's crazy talk.

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)

34. It's shocking. And they are doing the same exact thing that they accuse

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:51 PM

Dec 2017

her of !

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)

35. If it makes you feel better I wouldnt cross over and vote for

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:47 PM

Dec 2017

Joni Ernst or Marsha Blackburn, either.

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

38. The only person with his head on a stick is liberal dem Senator Al Franken

Reply to crazycatlady (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:32 PM

Dec 2017

Victim of a lynch mob/rush to judgement/McCarthyism/kangaroo court/republican dirty trick.

I'm sure Trump the pussy grabber and Moore the republican pedo candidate are overjoyed at the outcome!

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)

13. Never.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:59 AM

Dec 2017

comradebillyboy

(10,151 posts)

16. Depends on who the other candidates are and what

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:10 PM

Dec 2017

policies they propose. She is neither at the top nor the bottom of my list.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)

18. Probably a moot point.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:12 PM

Dec 2017

She would never make it through the Primaries.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

20. And I think this poll of her base, admittedly just a small data point, demonstrates why.

Reply to lpbk2713 (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:15 PM

Dec 2017

cwydro

(51,308 posts)

19. Nope. nt

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:12 PM

Dec 2017

treestar

(82,383 posts)

22. Not right now

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:18 PM

Dec 2017

but then I don't know about 2019.

Do we even know she would run? What are we basing that on?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

24. It's a hypothetic poll. I don't know if she will run.

Reply to treestar (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:19 PM

Dec 2017

I sincerely hope not.

obnoxiousdrunk

(2,910 posts)

23. What about the

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:19 PM

Dec 2017

other 30 senators ?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

25. She's the ring leader. I think a poll including them all would be a little bit too much.

Reply to obnoxiousdrunk (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:21 PM

Dec 2017

But I can tell you I will not support any of them.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)

26. Nope

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:24 PM

Dec 2017

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

27. If I conclude that she is the best choice, yes. nt

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:28 PM

Dec 2017

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)

33. +1000

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:49 PM

Dec 2017

hurple

(1,306 posts)

29. NO!

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:36 PM

Dec 2017

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roamer65

(36,745 posts)

31. There are other candidates that are light years better.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:41 PM

Dec 2017

She would not get my vote in the primaries.

Morris64

(78 posts)

36. Depends on what the rest of the field looks like.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:52 PM

Dec 2017

I know this is not a popular opinion, but Al is small potatoes compared to what we face in the coming years.

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)

41. +1000

Reply to Morris64 (Reply #36)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:19 PM

Dec 2017

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)

37. Not in the primary

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:56 PM

Dec 2017

but if she is the nominee I will vote for her...or ANY Democrat. So should all of us.

fallout87

(819 posts)

39. Not only NO...

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:40 PM

Dec 2017

But Hell NO. Same goes for Kamala and anyone else on that list that railroaded Al.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)

44. Yep on Kamala.

Reply to fallout87 (Reply #39)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:58 PM

Dec 2017

My crush on her is officially over.

djg21

(1,803 posts)

40. As VP.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:17 PM

Dec 2017

She won’t help us win electoral votes outside of the northeast and CA and shouldn’t be at the top of the ticket.

She’s done nothing wrong and merely distanced herself from the Clintons. She had to so that to remain credible. Franken made his own mistakes and doesn’t get a pass just because he’s a Dem.

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)

42. I will choose the best candidate that I think has the best chance to win in the general....PERIOD.

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:20 PM

Dec 2017

Skittles

(153,164 posts)

43. nope

Reply to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:13 PM

Dec 2017

no way

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