as in baseball, Franken is persuaded to take one for the team. Then the Dems in 2018 and 2020 can take the "high road" and proclaim moral indignation about GOP acquisence about sexual predators. It ain't fair, but life ain't fair. Al Franken's political career ain't over.

Not.

Let's not forget how we NEVER got to seat the Supreme Court Justice....

is that Kirsten may have taken one for the team.

.... In another thread, and I will repeat it here. This is just my opinion on gillibrand.


I have noticed that after calling for Al Franken's resignation and being successful in that effort, Kristen Gillibrand is now, after the fact, using Twitter to call out Roy Moore and Donald Trump. Something she has declined to do before as far as I can tell. After successfully outing a prominent Democrat under highly suspect circumstances, then calling out Trump and Moore, seems to be a message to the public that she will be a fair and balanced candidate for a 2020 presidential run.
She led the call for Al franken's resignation even as more than a few republicans expressed their doubts as to Franken's accusers and the circumstances of the whole affair. I am also thoroughly convinced that the majority of Democrats who fell in line with Kristen gillibrand did so out of a fear of being perceived as soft on sexual assault on women rather than a genuine conviction of principle. I think more than a few of these people are privately regretting their actions.

That you think this is "something she has declined to do" is part of the problem.

.."as far as I can tell". I think she did say something right after Trump was elected but I can't find anything since.

I can tell you that she has said she would vote to expel Roy Moore and has called him disgusting numerous times.

....but I don't think there's a democrat in the Senate who wouldn't.

I think her actions have made her voice mute on the subject. No one wants lynch mobs, they are extremely dangerous.

By leading a lynch mob based on flimsy evidence over minor charges she has equated misplaced hands with pussy grabbing. It makes a mockery of actual victims.

Not only has she taken out a very effective senator but she has destroyed her own credibility.

.... for 20 years and then saying Bill should have resigned is the trait of an opportunist. Apparently, she doesn't need them anymore.

...the Minnesota Governor and Party leadership demanded the resignation of a Democratic State Senator over sexual harassment charges from multiple women, including an "anonymous one". Nobody called for due process. Nobody claimed this was "political ambition". Nobody fretted that this would "depress turnout".

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2017/11/dayton-joins-chorus-political-leaders-calling-state-sen-dan-schoen-resign-wa?utm_content=buffer08130&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

State Sen. Dan Schoen, Rep. Tony Cornish both to resign after harassment claims

http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-state-senator-dan-schoen-to-resign-after-sexual-harassment-claims/459152573/

I'm calling for Gillibrand's resignation for putting her own ambition over party and country.

They sealed the deal. Had they been split, or had the majority of female Democratic Senators at least stayed silent, then the male members of the Democratic caucus might have had enough cover to perhaps stake out a different position if they disagreed with calling for Al's resignation. Realistically, on the issue of male sexual harassment of women, no male Democratic Senator was going to openly resist the consensus position of their female colleagues on this one.