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Can an impeached President run for President again? (Original Post) redstateblues Dec 2017 OP
Just guessing rock Dec 2017 #1
PS rock Dec 2017 #2
Who knows, with his minions dawg day Dec 2017 #13
So true rock Dec 2017 #14
If they are otherwise eligible, why not? Thor_MN Dec 2017 #3
I don't see any Constitutional impediment customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #4
You are wrong. Read Article I, section 3! longship Dec 2017 #6
Hmm, another flunking grade in Constitutional law for me! customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #7
Impeachment does not automatically mean removal from office CentralMass Dec 2017 #12
He didn't resign because he was not found guilty. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2017 #18
LBJ chose not to run again, but he could have. dawg day Dec 2017 #15
I agree with everything you said customerserviceguy Dec 2017 #17
No!! Read Article I, section 3 of your Constitution. longship Dec 2017 #5
The senate could choose to do this. It is not automatic. unblock Dec 2017 #8
Possibly the a conviction in the senate would have to stipulate this. delisen Dec 2017 #9
Judge Alcee Hastings conviction by senate did not delisen Dec 2017 #10
From prison?🤔 we can do it Dec 2017 #11
Yeah, impeach him, then convict him of a felony or two. dawg day Dec 2017 #16

rock

(13,218 posts)
1. Just guessing
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:02 PM
Dec 2017

But sure! Why not. Even if he's convicted of say collusion, obstruction, and perhaps perjury, these are not bars to the presidency. Besides if he's guilty of impeachment, then he's experienced! That's a plus.

rock

(13,218 posts)
2. PS
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:05 PM
Dec 2017

It strikes me that the crime of treason may bar you from running for a public office in the US.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
13. Who knows, with his minions
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:13 PM
Dec 2017

Roy Moore is already boasting that Putin's Russia is good and the US evil (Let's make a guess-- gay marriage).

Trump could probably get his minions to believe that treason is good. He's got them thinking that the FBI is bad, that colluding with Russia is good.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. If they are otherwise eligible, why not?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:07 PM
Dec 2017

Kind of a moot point though, as there are no people that have been impeached that are eligible to run.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. I don't see any Constitutional impediment
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017

to a person being elected President a second time. The 22nd Amendment clearly states that to get to the almost ten year absolute limit that one person can serve as President, that it only applies when "...some other person was elected President..." to be able to squeeze more than eight years out of the position. There was a narrow exception carved out, but it only applied to Harry Truman.

So, if Trump were removed from office by impeachment, he could still run for and serve in the office again if elected, but could not be re-elected ever again. If Trump were removed or resigned from the office before January 20, 2019, Mike Pence could only be elected to one more term. I cannot imagine any circumstances where Trump would resign before that date, and even if the 2018 election overwhelming favored the Democratic Party that they could run an impeachment and Senate trial in about two weeks time.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. You are wrong. Read Article I, section 3!
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:16 PM
Dec 2017

It's there in clear black and white.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. Hmm, another flunking grade in Constitutional law for me!
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:22 PM
Dec 2017

However, a resignation is not the same thing as removal by impeachment, and if it ever got that far, I can't imagine that Trump would hang on for the final verdict. Then, he'd spend the rest of his life and as much money as Don, Jr., Eric, and Ivanka would let him get away with to plot his revenge, which, to him, would come in the form of re-election.

But, good catch, I may be getting pretty old, just turned 62 last month, and I'm no longer the whiz of Ms. Pangal's business law class in senior high school!

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
12. Impeachment does not automatically mean removal from office
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:58 PM
Dec 2017

Bill Clinton was impeached but not not resign.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
15. LBJ chose not to run again, but he could have.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:23 PM
Dec 2017

LBJ served about 3 years of a VP term, then a year and a bit of JFK's term as president, then 4 years of his own.
He chose to withdraw from the 1968 race, but he could have served another term as president (or run later for another term, though he died while Nixon was president).

If he'd gone for a full second term, he would still have been under 10 years (by 10 months), of course.

But... why didn't he run for that second term? Because he was hated.
Trump's going to be even more hated.

Also note that LBJ's vice president lost (barely) that term LBJ didn't defend. Humphrey was a pretty good guy, a real quintessential Democrat, but he was so weighted down with LBJ's baggage that he lost to Nixon. (Of course, that was the year of the MLK and RFK assassinations-- RFK might have won-- and the Dem convention was the site of anti-war rioting. Not a good year, but Trump could set us up for an even worse one, just wait.)

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
17. I agree with everything you said
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:03 PM
Dec 2017

except for the part about Humphrey losing barely. Combine the Nixon and Wallace vote, and it was not a close loss. That's one of the things I always say about 1968, even with Wallace bleeding off the worst of the racists, Nixon still managed to get a victory, both in the popular vote and especially in the Electoral College vote, even with Wallace having won the EC votes of a full five states.

The period from that day on until at least 1977 was not kind to us.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. No!! Read Article I, section 3 of your Constitution.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:13 PM
Dec 2017
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.


Bolding is mine.

delisen

(6,044 posts)
10. Judge Alcee Hastings conviction by senate did not
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:35 PM
Dec 2017

stipulate that he be disqualified office. He is now in the House of Representatives

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