Back to the topic, whatever makes you happy.

But no NY Yankee fans in MY family! Son in law's a Phanatic. IF by Yankee you mean one of us, northeasterners, YES!

Daughter + son in law live in NJ, Philly suburb, married last year and looking for house now. Don't know about jobs generally but he's got a good one, for state/county agency, and daughter just passed her Occupational Therapy 'bar' exam, and has had a few interviews, so looks good. Not aware of any of their friends without jobs.

real life Yankees. Where I live now I'm a 'damned Yankee' because I moved here and stayed. So time to move on, back to people who think like me.

And I was born and raised here.

and we can do a 'meet-up,' when I visit daughter!
Was great to read, from son in law, 'Thanks to President Obama,' for student loan program which enables lower rates, AND talking w him about Penna. voter i.d. crap. Good kid!

in another place on DU, and hope you are well. I am still wrastling around, but it's all good, til it's terrifying! Aren't we supposed to challenge ourselves?!

I'm OK, and happy you're good, and wrastling!

I doubt it would come close to Savannah, GA, though.

or rather, if you are Progressive and vote Democratic, sorry to say, but if you vote for Obama as many of us reluctantly will, the electoral college votes will go to Mitt, especially in this red neck state of Georgia .. you get the idea. Pennsylvania might just need your vote. I always wanted to move to some state where my vote actually counted in a presidential election. I live just outside of Atlanta and it's not much better .. I say go for it.

I happen to think President Obama is the best person this country has going for it. Sorry you don't. And it's not about moving for my vote, but moving for me. I KNOW who I'm voting for, and why.

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Information does.

us who've been around these parts for years know that not to be the case. I was offended by it, and would suggest that newbies feel their way around before diving right into namecalling. Does that offend you?

Good job on being so polite though.

who says they reluctantly vote for Obama and then insults anyone who points that out.

in your statement of "but if you vote for Obama as many of us reluctantly will..."

I, for one, will PROUDLY vote for President Obama (that is his official title, you know).

However, your reluctance is duly noted.

I lived in Savannah for two years when I was a teen in the late '60s. Our house was on the corner of Bull Street and East 48th. One summer the heat and humidity got so bad I started have wheezing fits where I had trouble breathing. I wasn't used to it. And on certain days, the sickly sweet smell of the paper mills up the Savannah River was overpowering. But the city was very pretty and the people were generally okay. I guess now though there must be three or four times the population.

"I gotta get back North." I haven't been to the Philly area in about 5 years, so I'm not up on housing, jobs, etc.; hope some in PA/DE/NJ respond to your questions.

That's another reason why it sounds appealing, and thanks for asking. I'm old enough to head towards light, or my perception, if I can. NY too big, busy, expensive, likewise with the west coast, Philly might fulfill my needs as I perceive them.

NYC is out of the question price-wise. Probably DC as well due to housing costs -- Philly might be that happy medium. We'll see. Good luck!

We're retired and not looking for work. Do you just miss home or is the area as bad as Mississippi (which is where I'm stuck right now). I gotta believe pretty much anywhere would be better and Savannah has a rep as a cultured area. If you don't mind my asking, whats your take?

where that's what I'm dealing with. Home is not Philly, but I miss a bigger population, different POVs, etc. You might do fine here, Rowdyboy, but I'm not doing so well.

Ranked "13th Gayist City" in the country, but still NEEDS more progressive votes.

My note: move to the city, not the county. The county really sucks and makes us look "red" on the maps; however, the city is so blue we just voted in as mayor a Latina who worked for Cesar Chavez.

Much better on the beach .. beautiful there. Nice place to retire .. as long as they don't get hit by a hurricane.

I teach at a local university.

And I didn't even open that link, because my laptop usually won't do things I want it to do. How sad is that???????

It's living in the country, dammit!

but I LOVED visiting Savannah...before he died, we would visit my wife's cousin every summer and I miss that and him so much. He had lived there a long time and always had new stories to tell and new things for us to go see and do. He loved the history of the city and we loved hearing him tell it.

I do also, but not enough of them to live the rest of my years here. I need action, and Savannah can be pretty sleepy.

so I imagine I would eventually run out of those things. (action and stories). It's easy to love a place ya only visit.

I've only been back to Dallas (where I grew up) twice in the last 28 years and there's a lot I miss about it. Much bigger town than here - even though I'm in central Florida, it's still awfully small town around here. (Area's big but the minds are small...although it's trying...)

Are you Irish?? heard they have the 3rd or 4th best Irish parade ever.....we're thinking of going to Savannah on St. Paddy's Day in 2013. So really...why are you leaving??

And btw, book your St. Pat's room NOW!!! They're probably all already booked.

I need some mental nourishment and am not getting it here. I live in a house with other people, all rednecks, and I'm done.
Time to move on.

There are plenty of rednecks in Pennsylvania.

Philly (and Pittsburgh, I've heard) are much more rational...and Philly did elect Mayor Nutter.

And I love being close to the ocean. We hit a good combination of jobs and housing (lucky there), so we'll be hanging around for a while.

Good luck!

lived there when I first moved here.

At the Port Authority until a defense contractor made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

I wish you good luck in your move. Ya'll come back now, hear?

There are are incredible number of PA and OH people here. ALL the sports bars are Steeler Country!!! grin

I'm from Ohio. I got plopped here when I was 20. I'm significantly not that now.

I've loved Savannah since the first morning I woke up there and walked around.

I love Savannah. A Bright Blue shining island awash in an Ocean of Red.

One of the things I love to do is see the cultural differences while walking down Broughton St. Everything from near-antebellum southern, to dyed spiked hair. Having SCAD here is an incredible piece of luck. And the squares are always good for an oddity here and there. as well as the historical significance. It's not every city that can claim to have been a Christmas present to Abe Lincoln!

"Significantly not that" hee hee. I KNOW what you mean...

Free Parking and very user friendly. Bathrooms and changing areas and swings and things.

Meanwhile, Tybee acts like they hate tourists.

Have been the direct opposite. When we visited HHI we had to park 3 blocks from the beach and lug our stuff. And Tybee offers the bonus of at least 3 good fishing spots on the North and South sides. Plus I had a parking ticket forgiven there. Not all bad. HHI sure has a lot of golf courses. Plus Tybee is closer, so that's where we usually hang. Wife with book, me with metal detector, cast net, or fishing pole. So cliche!

I have no idea what the burbs are like, except that I find burbs to be dismally the same all over the country.

It is farther north than GA, so the culture might be a little easier for you to deal with.

too dark, and too quiet". Now that they've both retired, the hubby wants to sell their home in Philly, and move South. She says he's free to go, but she wants a divorce.

If you do, just keep in mind that, depending on the upcoming court case, you may have to jump through some hoops to be able to vote this November.

There is currently an "in-migration" back to SE PA and even into the city. The old suburbs are actually renewing themselves and the old "downtowns" are adding all sorts of pedestrian-friendly features and renewed storefronts etc (alot of it thanks to the enterprise zone funding generated under Clinton). The immediate rim counties have gone blue or at least purple (save for maybe Bucks County).

All the denigration of the NE as the "rust belt" leaves out the fact that the rust has been scraped off in many areas revealing the shiny virgin steel underneath. Only downside is dealing with the rotational governorships --> Dem to Rethug --> Dem --> Rethug about every 8 years (basically since 1963 I think).

there you are.

I live about 100 miles up river from you, on the SC side. I don't really want to go to Philly, as my family are all out West now. But, I really, really, really want to get out of here.

but I now live in North Georgia in the Atlanta area, and I would not move north even though I have relatives in Pennsylvania. I love the South.

12 miles west of Philly. Loves it. She's an academic on faculty
at St. Joseph's University. We grew up together in northern Jersey,
so yeah, we're definitely both Yanks.

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My brother lived in Berwyn, PA for some years when
he was working at GSK. They liked it, too, but
he and his wife are Repubs. I visited them several
years--at Christmas--and I thought the surrounding
small towns were quite picturesque. It's a little farther
out of Philly--about 24 miles--but a mainline town.

On edit: I live in Chapel Hill, NC and I LOVE it here.
I know there are several other NC folks on DU.
The Triangle area--Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill
is vibrant--better job opportunities than the rest of NC--
and Chapel Hill is an oasis of blue. All the universities
and colleges in the area tend to make it more liberal,
accepting, and cosmopolitan. Yes, NC has its share of
rednecks outside the Triangle (but Asheville is quite
progressive, too) but I think you'll find cost of living
a little better if you stay in the south and locate
yourself in a progressive town. There are lots and lots
of transplants in the Triangle, in fact the town of
Cary is considered an acronym for Containment Area
Relocated Yanks.

Good luck!

I don't know about Philly but there is no shrimp and grits in Iowa and that's a shame.

That was actually a complex story. It had to do with the Santa being drunk and acting out on the field.

So does Ed Rendell, former Governor of Pennsylvania...

We love it here, but then again this is where I was born. PM me if you have any questions. I would be happy to help.

to South Jersey a couple of years ago. I thank heavens I did so every day. I get the best of both worlds...live in a small town in South Jersey and get to work in NE Philly. We travel, shop, etc. all the time in PA, NJ shore, DE and NYC...love it!

And a theme song...

for sharing your experiences. Lots of food for thought here.

Lots of interesting people, exhibits, etc. They have to include some like minded folks.

Can't say I blame you. I think there is more real culture in the city proper, especially downtown/forsyth Park. But my god there are a lot of brainwashed idiots around them. I live in the islands and even though they are wealthier, most still spout the kool-aid crap whenever it comes up. Just be careful about where you go up there, lots of wing nuts everywhere. I personally would be looking for a location that has a history of being a 'liberal' haven, be it associated with a University, performance arts, or some other thinking person's attractor.

I personally would love to move back to the west coast, where I am from, but no jobs in my profession there. Sigh.

I'm a Yankee living in northern California and loving it.

Everyone has to find a place that lets them grow.