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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsForty years ago in Alabama, there's a lot a mamas and daddies that would be thrilled
that their 14 year old was getting hit on by a District Attorney" That's from an Alabama voter who's just thrilled to support that District Attorney.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Initially women or children and their families are flattered by the attention from a powerful or wealthy man?
delisen
(6,044 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)young teen?
I am trying to understand the dynamics.
delisen
(6,044 posts)would be a lucky girl if Roy Moore was interested in her. (He was, after all the district attorney, a graduate of West Point).
I don't think her mother meant that she would be happy if her daughter had a sexual relationship with Moore, rather the mother would be accepting of courtship and marriage.
I think Moore tried to put his behavior in that light when he said he would always ask the mother's permission-that would signal courtship and his intentions would be considered honorable (meaning leading to marriage).
However we know from the women who have come forward that he'd did not approach the parents, and he was not suggesting a relationship leading to marriage.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)marriage. This was a lie, part of the con?
delisen
(6,044 posts)He was conning us-the general public in the US and counting on us to think that Alabama in the 1980s was so extremely backward that men first established themselves financially and then went-a-courting to find a young bride- as was done in some circles in Victorian times.
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I haven't heard of any parent coming forward to say that Roy Moore approached them and asked for permission to date their teen aged daughter and that they denied or gave him permission.
I think Roy is a student of history and he was trying to get us to excuse his behavior by placing it in a false historical context,
to blur the truth that he was aggressively pursuing teen aged girls in the 1980s for sex not marriage and hiding his intentions from the parents.
False narrative and a bunch of enablers backing him up.
When I put that together with his shady charity that did not disclose huge payments to him, I think he is another conman-like the Oval Office occupant-who know exactly what he is doing and is making a fortune doing it.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)delisen
(6,044 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)My dad was a Bama man and very very VERY protective - even though I grew up in Western NY. Add in his background as a Green Beret - I was born in 73. He was born Iin 41 - so of that 'era' of parents okay?
If a 30 year old man had molested me at 14 I know my father would have:
Hunted him down on Friday
Shot him on Saturday
And laughed about it and said "hell yeah I did it" on Sunday at Mt. Olivet Baptist Church.
That person is a liar.
A god damned liar!
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)- "Why, that's awefully nice of him."
HAB911
(8,904 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...oh wait, it is Alabama, after all.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)It's almost like going to some middle eastern country like Afghanistan or something. They would see it as a great honor that their teen daughter was being courted by the village elder.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)Alabama must be even worse than the mountains of Kentucky since I was a teenager there 40 years ago and some guy in his 30's going after young girls would have not been seen as normal or good! I asked my Mom about this the other night and she said she would have killed an older man if he went after me or my sister like that (she may have exaggerated a little, but made her point).
Mariana
(14,858 posts)He wasn't meeting girls at church and getting to know them them under their families' supervision, going to the house for Sunday dinner and such. No. He was lurking around the mall, hitting on the girls who worked there. Why did he do that? Because their parents weren't there and wouldn't know what he was up to.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
In Alabama, the statute of limitations for bringing felony charges involving sexual abuse of a minor in 1979 would have run out three years later, and the time frame for filing a civil complaint would have ended when the alleged victim turned 21, according to Child USA, a nonprofit research and advocacy group at the University of Pennsylvania.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_accused_of_sexual_mi.html
treestar
(82,383 posts)That proves him a fraud. I wonder if any pundit will bring that up.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)Gimme that Old Time Religion...
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)in the 1970s. I know because I grew up with fundamentalists in the 1970s.