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New Poll Shows Jones with Big Lead In Alabama (Original Post) RandySF Dec 2017 OP
Jones has a shot at winning get the red out Dec 2017 #1
Fox News? What's their game here? dawg day Dec 2017 #2
A way lsewpershad Dec 2017 #3
They were also bullish on Northam. RandySF Dec 2017 #6
interesting NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #21
I'm always suspicious of Fox NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #16
Good polls are why Hillary lost, IMHO Nevernose Dec 2017 #17
They are trying to suppress turnout by making Democrats feel complacent and firing up their repig BigDemVoter Dec 2017 #22
Don't forget the 2016 polls Motley13 Dec 2017 #4
Or dare we hope Jones can win? marylandblue Dec 2017 #5
I really don't know what to make out of it. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #7
Trying to rile the base PoorMonger Dec 2017 #8
if they wanted to rile the base NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #23
Fox is trying to influence democrats to stay home workinclasszero Dec 2017 #9
Damn right they are... bluecollar2 Dec 2017 #14
You honestly think Democrats are going to stay home for this? budkin Dec 2017 #18
Really? workinclasszero Dec 2017 #19
Ok, you do have a point there budkin Dec 2017 #20
Believe me I hope workinclasszero Dec 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author budkin Dec 2017 #29
Ok....now I BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! workinclasszero Dec 2017 #31
Jones has a shot... but 10 points? Adrahil Dec 2017 #10
Nah, it's people who are ashamed to admit they are Tavarious Jackson Dec 2017 #11
a ploy - get the Moore voters out and keep the Jone's folks at home DrDan Dec 2017 #12
Emerson came out with a poll today WE ARE SC13 Dec 2017 #13
It would be far better to assume Jones is 10 points behind workinclasszero Dec 2017 #15
Fox News polls are not the same as Fox News' primetime yakkers DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #24
That poll had 8% of the likely voters still undecided the day before the election. herding cats Dec 2017 #25
another poll out today has Moore leading by 9. Polls gone mad. Cicada Dec 2017 #26
DU this poll: L. Coyote Dec 2017 #28
Well, it was obviously not a good poll. LisaL Dec 2017 #30

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. Fox News? What's their game here?
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 11:13 AM
Dec 2017

I'm too suspicious, I know, but is this Fox poll an attempt to rally the GOP voters who haven't yet been able to sign on to Moore?

Also, as we learned with Trump polling, a lot of poll respondents who are somehow willing to VOTE for a scumbag are embarrassed to admit it to a pollster. That could be happening here.

Then again, maybe those dads who are saying they'd be okay if Moore "courted" (gag) their teen daughters have actually appalled some GOP voters.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
16. I'm always suspicious of Fox
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:30 PM
Dec 2017

I'd love for the poll to be true, but I think they're trying to game the voters. This is likely a push to get Republicans who don't like Moore but HATE any Democrat to the polls to hold their noses and tighten their sphincters.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
17. Good polls are why Hillary lost, IMHO
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:41 PM
Dec 2017

Last edited Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:55 PM - Edit history (1)

More than Russia or Sarandon or outreach to whichever group or ground game or whatever or voter suppression. All those things are very real, by the way, and I’m not minimizing them.

But Democrats are notoriously bad at actually bothering to vote.

I think millions of us looked at the polls, said “She’s got this thing locked up. Why leave work early and stand in line when I can grab some KFC before I watch Cooking with the Stars’ while I read other people’s gossip on Facebook?’”

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
22. They are trying to suppress turnout by making Democrats feel complacent and firing up their repig
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 06:57 PM
Dec 2017

crazies.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
23. if they wanted to rile the base
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 06:59 PM
Dec 2017

they'd show Moore down 3, 4 or 5 points, I'd think. A 10 point difference broadcast on Fox might depress turnout - "oh he can't win anyways..."

budkin

(6,703 posts)
18. You honestly think Democrats are going to stay home for this?
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:45 PM
Dec 2017

And why would they be watching Fox News anyway?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Really?
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:48 PM
Dec 2017

Ever damn doctor's office, airports, many workplaces have fox fuckin news blaring 24/7 during working hours.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
20. Ok, you do have a point there
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 06:55 PM
Dec 2017

Still though, Alabama Dems are going to come out in droves... their vote normally NEVER counts.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
27. Believe me I hope
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:04 AM
Dec 2017

dems come out in huge numbers and crush pedo Moore but I wont believe it till it happens.

Just GOTV Alabama!

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #27)

 

WE ARE SC13

(24 posts)
13. Emerson came out with a poll today
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:09 PM
Dec 2017

Moore with a 9-point lead. Clearly both pollsters are using completely different methodologies. For all the conspiracists regarding the Fox News poll, there polls throughout the race have been way more bullish on Jones than other pollsters. They commision a pollster to do the polling and they just put their name on it -- just like CNN or any other network or newspaper. They are also highly rated by fivethirtyeight. The point is, do not disregard the poll because it is their poll. No matter what, someone is going to be looking real bad come Wednesday. The small amount of polling is all over the map.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. It would be far better to assume Jones is 10 points behind
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:23 PM
Dec 2017

Some democrats will see this down there and think its in the bag and stay home on election day.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
24. Fox News polls are not the same as Fox News' primetime yakkers
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 07:05 PM
Dec 2017

Their polls are generally well-designed and credible. The problem with the polling in this race is that no one knows who is a "likely voter". TPM has a link to a surveymonkey analysis, where, depending on who the pollster rates as a "likely voter" shows the election from anywhere from a 9 pt Jones lead to a 9 pt Moore lead.

The polling data of contacted registered voters shows Jones ahead by 9-10 pts, but "weighting" gives a 20 pt range of outcomes.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
25. That poll had 8% of the likely voters still undecided the day before the election.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 07:07 PM
Dec 2017

That seems a high margin for what they consider to be likely voters. Registered voters I’d accept, but likely ones?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
30. Well, it was obviously not a good poll.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 01:43 AM
Dec 2017

I wonder if they were trying to drive republican turnout. If so it didn't work.
Looks like a lot of republicans stayed home.

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