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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Marburg Files (Duke of Windsor) from WWII
This was the same person that gave up the throne to marry the American, Wallace Simpson. His collusion with Hitler during WWII is reminiscent of the present-day collusion with the Russian, in some respects.
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http://www.williamprynnesears.com/windsorduke.html
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In the summer of 1940 German agents tried to persuade the Duke to come over to their side. He had been serving with the British military mission in Paris, and retreated, first to Madrid and then to Lisbon, when France was overrun.
The German ambassadors in Spain and Portugal attempted to woo and cajole the Duke and Duchess into staying in Spain under German protection and a senior SS officer, Walter Schellenberg, sent the Duchess a bouquet containing a message warning her that the British planned to assassinate them. He had orders to kidnap the Duke and Duchess if they would not come voluntarily.
Winston Churchill offered the Duke the Governorship and impressed upon him that it was his patriotic duty to accept it.
The Dukes lawyer, Sir Walter Monkton, was despatched to the villa where the Duke and Duchess. Their host in Portugal, the banker Ricardo Espirito Santo Silva was known to be a Nazi sympathiser.
Liddell noted in his diary that the Germans had made a very determined effort to lure the Duke back to Spain and prevent him taking up his post in the Bahamas.
He added: Various statements are attributed to the Duke by these agents which are not of a very savoury kind. Although it seems doubtful whether the Duke was scheming for his own restoration, it is fairly clear that he expresses the view
that the whole war was a mistake and that if he had been King it never would have happened.
niyad
(113,336 posts)wallis, too, apparently.
kentuck
(111,101 posts)Are you talking about Prince Charles??
niyad
(113,336 posts)<snip>
George VI (Albert Frederick Arthur George; 14 December 1895 6 February 1952) was King of the United Kingdom and the Dominions of the British Commonwealth from 11 December 1936 until his death. He was the last Emperor of India and the first Head of the Commonwealth.
Known publicly as Albert until his accession, and "Bertie" among his family and close friends, George VI was born in the reign of his great-grandmother Queen Victoria, and was named after his great-grandfather Albert, Prince Consort. As the second son of King George V, he was not expected to inherit the throne and spent his early life in the shadow of his elder brother, Edward. He attended naval college as a teenager, and served in the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force during the First World War. In 1920, he was made Duke of York. He married Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon in 1923 and they had two daughters, Elizabeth and Margaret. In the mid-1920s, he had speech therapy for a stammer, which he never fully overcame.
George's elder brother ascended the throne as Edward VIII upon the death of their father in 1936. However, later that year Edward revealed his desire to marry divorced American socialite Wallis Simpson. British Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin advised Edward that for political and religious reasons he could not marry a divorced woman and remain king. Edward abdicated to marry Simpson, and George ascended the throne as the third monarch of the House of Windsor.
crazylikafox
(2,758 posts)Edward the VIII married Wallis Simpson & became the Duke of Windsor after his abdication.
kentuck
(111,101 posts)I have always had trouble with the titles in the British royalty.
crazylikafox
(2,758 posts)Otherwise I don't think I could have kept this straight either. LOL
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)I wonder if the Americans managed to get her into his orbit to seduce him so he would have to abdicate, because someone in American intelligence knew he was too sympathetic to Hitler.
Naaa. But it might make a fun movie, showing the planning and machinations to make it hapoen.
niyad
(113,336 posts)do you think melania is the same for der drumpfenfuhrer? or just his handler?
kentuck
(111,101 posts)Not out of the realm of possibilities.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Melania could be a Putin spy than Wallis an American spy. I suspect Melania could find ways to surreptitiously bend trump's will for Putin and influence his decisions, especially over the last few years when trump was getting more help from russian oligarchs.
I think DOTUS is an unwitting asset for Putin and Melania reports back infrequently when things are worth reporting.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)He never struck me as being overly bright.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Vacuity of his conversation. He was an insufferable snob. He looked down on those of other races and spent his life doing essentially nothing. A waste.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)who, thanks to access to the best medical care available, is a robust 91 now.
( has the same birthday as my mother did).
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)No matter what someone might think of the monarchy, she is an exemplary person. The longest and the oldest serving monarch.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)The life of privilege has come at the expense of anything resembling a normal life. People forget that her father didnt want the job and his wife never forgave his brother for abdicating. It likely sent him to an early grave.
Ive always had an interest in the British monarchy back to medieval times, but I dont think Id ever want that job.