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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome thoughts on our culture and the periodic massacres
No, this is NOT a thread about guns/weapons. I do support the 2nd Amendment and do not care to argue any points about it.
Our culture (to no one's surprise here) is very deeply flawed. It's really a mental health and community issue. Yes, there are mentally ill in every society. There are people "on the fringes" in every society. However, we in America worship individualism to an extreme. A person can walk amongst us deeply troubled and be totally disconnected from the community around him. It usually becomes apparent that these mass killers left signs that they were not stable.
What's the answer ? I won't pretend to know. We might study other more peaceful societies that balance out individualism and community better than we do. I do think *part* of the answer is greatly increased public mental health funding and much greater access via insurance to mental health services. It should be extremely easy for someone to get proper medication/hospitalization/counseling services. Right now it's not.
How many massacres do we need to endure before we as a culture evolve ? Hopefully not many more.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)everyone is so scared to offend each other that if you even tried to reach out you would get accused of all sorts. kinda like you think im going to go radio rental just because i have this illness and then you have to deal with accusations.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)categorys as well, people will always split into their tribal groups problem we have to get over is to make these tribes not at odds with each other so we are to busy fighting other tribes to notice the people in the cracks. never going to happen though as we are all to busy fighting each other over politics, religion, football and whos gonna win american idol.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)It's really very tricky. No one wants mass conformity to the point where individuality is severely suppressed but what we as a culture do is not really working well either.
Part of the problem is a civil rights issue also. You can be mentally ill, noticeably so, and wander the streets. Do I advocate locking them all up ? No, of course not. These mass killers are not in that category. They seem to appear somewhat normal and then "snap" one day. This man in Colorado had been in medical school, so my guess is he was functioning to some degree. We'll find out as time goes on.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'm an Anglophile, yet I know the UK has its challenges also.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I see unstable people all the time. But, I don't have any means of getting that person help. And really you can't walk up to random unstable people and say hey here is a card I think these people could help you. I have dealt with meth heads, mouthwash drunks, paranoid schizophrenics(undiagnosed, won't seek a professional), borderline personality types, and megalomaniacs. Some of these people look like functioning people to outsiders. Others are so loopy that it is no secret to anyone that they are in need of help.
Now if you ask me which of these people are a danger to others, I wouldn't be able to tell you. The one with the craziest eyes turned out to be the sweetest lady and now I don't think she would hurt a fly. The megalomaniac ended up becoming homeless, also probably wouldn't hurt anyone. I am worried about the meth head however, very wild mood swings. The paranoid schizophrenic is afraid of other people more than they are of him, but he could snap maybe.
Most of the people I know that are unbalanced are more of a danger to themselves. They only function on a very basic level if that. Most manage to hold down jobs, feed themselves, get dressed, and go about their business. You put a stressor in the mix and it's anyone's guess what will happen.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)it seems that everyone judges everyone else whether its on their religion, race, sexuality or whatever, its all about being judged so people dont want to admit to being out of the norm and maybe having problems. Just look at the pile on that happens here on DU if you say you like something that some people dont.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Once we gain more knowledge, what do we do ? I don't know.
As I said above, civil rights comes into the picture rapidly. We can only do so much before we impinge upon civil rights of the mentally ill.