great depression in 08 and Trump put us on the same road...always the same Obama came in and cleaned up Bush's mess...and then the GOP get in and squander it all.

Its going to be worse this time. This republican tax bill is a direct attack against the liberal voters in blue states like California and New York.

Our own damn government is punishing blue states! Bush nearly destroyed this country, Trump and this present traitor republican party are going to finish the job.

We better win back control of the House and Senate in 2018 and repeal and replace this republican attack on the blue states tax bill before it triggers the next great recession/depression.

a disaster, but by then Trump's admin will have screwed up so many things it would be impossible to tie it to the tax plan.

Create a bubble/boom in some area for a time then the bubble bursts and the economy plunges into recession.

They will never do anything to benefit the economy for real Americans like raise the minimum wage for instance where every dollar would immediately go out into the economy to buy goods and services and create real economic growth.

And when their tax plan fails they are coming for social security and medicare to stop the bleeding. Count on it.

They are already talking about it.

paychecks and think all the criticism of the tax plan is fake news. There are a lot of stupid people out there who can't look past today.

Too many otherwise conservative voices are expressing concerns about this plan. That didn't happen in the 80's when all those folks lapped up the debunked Laffer philosophy and in the early 2k's when they cut taxes to solve a problem that didn't exist.

This time, there's too much concern and criticism from Wall Street and the banking industry. If they don't like it, the "boom" will not occur. It will be a slight ripple up, followed by a major trough down.

to deal with it. I mean recessions are part of the natural economic cycle. There will be a downturn. The tax plan is simply a huge waste of the nations resources for very little return. At the same time they're cutting the social safety net, gutting government hiring, and randomly failing to enforce regulation. The failed health care bill and then this bill really hammer home how poorly our government is prepared to fight the next recession. Indeed they seem vastly prepared to jump right in and make it more severe.

There's nobody with good ideas there to deal with negative consequences.

I don't totally agree with the notion that there is a natural economic cycle, independent of extrinsic influences like stupid, unnecessary tax cuts. For the last 50 years, there has been a great deal of overcontrol by administrations, Congress and the Fed, and too much influence from people who have built a reputation on proving X therefore Y and applying it to a 50 dimensional system.

The stuff in your 3rd sentence is exactly the kind of extrinsic influences i'm talking about, so we agreeing on that. Thing is, making those moves when they aren't absolutely needed cause the unintended consequences that everyone seems willing to accept as a natural economic cycle.

There's nothing natural about it.

after attending a local gathering of accountants in GA: "You know the tax bill is bad when a room full of Republican-voting CPAs thinks this is the dumbest shit they have ever seen."

Republicans will scream that we need austerity and to cut back on government, so cuts to social security, medicare and medicaid will be in order.

Still hoping sanity might prevail.

Hell around here the big boy Corporations had a ZERO percent tax rate and it STILL flopped. Meanwhile Brokeback foisted TWO sales tax increases on us.

Watch what Trump and Republicans do when the debt starts piling up over his FRAUD tax plan.