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Joe941

(2,848 posts) Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:14 AM Dec 2017

Are we setting ourselves up for failure (Tax plan)?

I read story headlines that say the rePUke tax plan raises taxes for most of the people. Much of the talk here echos the same sentiments. But from all my research the tax plan is certainly going to decrease my taxes to the tune of a couple grand a year. I think most people are going to see their paychecks tick up too. What will people think when paychecks go up? Two words: fake news!

Instead shouldn't we concentrate on the negatives of the bill that will happen: national deficit, healthcare/ACA being gutted, medicare/medicaid cuts, personal tRump gains, etc. etc. etc. (add 100 other things).

It just seems like most of the focus is on something that isn't going to come true when we could be calling out all the things that will come true.

I don'tt know do you agree or not?

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Are we setting ourselves up for failure (Tax plan)? (Original Post) Joe941 Dec 2017 OP

You will pay more over time. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #1

That is a summary of the realistic facts about BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #2

We have already failed! democratisphere Dec 2017 #3

With 28% approval, it is easy to see how much of a representative our government is of its people world wide wally Dec 2017 #4

ACA was quite unpopular at first too Joe941 Dec 2017 #6

Are you serious Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #5

You must be very financially secure if you expect your taxes to decrease by more than $2000. dawg Dec 2017 #7

Yes I totally agree Vidal Dec 2017 #8

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)

1. You will pay more over time.

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:24 AM

Dec 2017

And the rich will pay even less.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)

2. That is a summary of the realistic facts about

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:29 AM

Dec 2017

the plan and why it has only 28% approval. This is why we are calling Congress for over two weeks. CALL and pressure the GOP NOW! It take 2 min (literally). (202)224-312 1
https://www.trumptaxscam.org/what-now
https://notonepenny.org/take-action/?p2asource=20171204tmemail

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)

3. We have already failed!

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:32 AM

Dec 2017

Now we are going to double down on that failure.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)

4. With 28% approval, it is easy to see how much of a representative our government is of its people

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:39 AM

Dec 2017

Vote GOP!

Right, deplorables?

Joe941

(2,848 posts)

6. ACA was quite unpopular at first too

Reply to world wide wally (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:08 AM

Dec 2017

but is now quite popular and supported by most.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)

5. Are you serious

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:42 AM

Dec 2017

or did you just forget ?

dawg

(10,624 posts)

7. You must be very financially secure if you expect your taxes to decrease by more than $2000.

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:24 AM

Dec 2017

Either that, or you are missing the parts of the plan that claw back most of the savings that people would otherwise realize from the doubling of the standard deduction.

Vidal

(642 posts)

8. Yes I totally agree

Reply to Joe941 (Original post)

Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:28 AM

Dec 2017

The worst thing in the bill and the budget is that it explodes the deficit which will give Repugs an excuse to cut the social safety net in this country. Which is totally evil.

Also, the economy (and big corporations and billionaires) do not need tax cuts. Corporate profits are at record highs. This will not create jobs but will give the super-rich more money to stash in their offshore accounts. So this may hurt the economy in the long run because of the weight of trillions in federal debt.

Plus Trump will save a billion dollars which is reason enough to protest it. We still need to see his tax returns.

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