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kentuck

(111,101 posts)
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:16 AM Dec 2017

$5 Trillion dollars in profits are "parked" overseas...

...and the only way we can get them to bring that money back to America is to give them a very low tax rate on those profits??

Is that the limit of our imagination?

What if they voted to take away their tax breaks for moving overseas to begin with?

What if they offered no FDIC protection for any of their profits moved back to America?

What if they made agreements with these "island" nations to pay them to stop these corporations and wealthy individuals from hiding their money on their islands?

What if they put a tariff on all their products that they make with cheap overseas labor and then sells in the American market?

So, the only answer is to offer them a free ride to bring their money back to the protected shores of America??

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$5 Trillion dollars in profits are "parked" overseas... (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2017 OP
Nothing is coming back HERE. The redumbliCON tax shill is based on democratisphere Dec 2017 #1
it's even more sad than you realize. the profits parked overseas are borrowed against. unblock Dec 2017 #2
+100 kentuck Dec 2017 #3
The Dumbest Part Of This Argument. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2017 #4
couple points fescuerescue Dec 2017 #5

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Nothing is coming back HERE. The redumbliCON tax shill is based on
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:30 AM
Dec 2017

proven redumbliCON lies from previous tax shills. The debt isn't going to increase by 1 trillon; it will increase by over 2 trillion in providing corporate and wealthiest welfare. This is the craziest thing that has ever been concockted by our corrupt Congress.

unblock

(52,248 posts)
2. it's even more sad than you realize. the profits parked overseas are borrowed against.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:06 AM
Dec 2017

in fact, there are ways to effectively make use of that money here in the u.s. without paying taxes here.

already, even companies like apple, which has more cash than croesus, actually *borrows* money here in the u.s. to do things like pay dividends to investors.

so what will it mean if they actually repatriate all the money and pay a lowered tax rate on it?

not much. they were turning the money over to investors, whether via dividends or stock buybacks, they were just borrowing to do it. now, they'll just do the same thing with actual cash instead of having to borrow. it won't change things much for investors other than that the corporate borrowing costs will go down very slightly (the interest costs involved are very low).

what will happen is that a whole lot of cash will leave places like europe, which has a rather more precarious economy than ours. should this move push them into recession, that will in turn have a negative effect on our economy. i don't think that scenario is all that likely, but it will in any event put a big of a drag on their growth, which, again, harms us in turn.

all in all it's a very, very stupid idea. handing money to rich people and corporatation at a time when there's plenty of investment capital available and the economy is growing and at effectively full employment?

completely idiotic, and i haven't even touched on the distribution of wealth issue.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
4. The Dumbest Part Of This Argument. . .
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:35 AM
Dec 2017

. . .is that a lower tax rate will make them repatriate the money. THEY'RE PAYING ZERO TAXES NOW! No matter how low the new rate is, what motivates them to go from ZERO to anything greater than zero.

The excuse for this tax plan doesn't make sense even on the most fundamental level.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
5. couple points
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 11:39 AM
Dec 2017

There is no law that provides tax breaks for moving the money overseas. Simple the money is "earned" in a foreign country, under a foreign corporation. As it exists now, that money never touches any US oversight.

Also, the profits are NEVER moved back to America. They are simply spent overseas - on foreign employees, buildings and other foreign assets.

They could however, put a tariff on the products as you suggest. Nothing at all stopping Congress from slapping say a 100% tariff on all iphones for instance.

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