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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Paterno family weighs in on the statue removal and the victims:
Tearing down the statue of Joe Paterno does not serve the victims of Jerry Sandusky's horrible crimes or help heal the Penn State Community. We believe the only way to help the victims is to uncover the full truth. The Freeh report, though it has been accepted by the media as the definitive conclusion on the Sandusky scandal, is the equivalent of an indictmenta charging document written by a prosecutorand an incomplete and unofficial one at that.
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What they really wanted to say is 'victim.' That would be JoePa.
They have considered him to be the one who was affected worst by this mess.
They need to STFU.
Lex
(34,108 posts)I don't think so.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Response to myrna minx (Reply #2)
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myrna minx
(22,772 posts)You need to try harder next time.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)Did any of the Paterno family/children work with Joe Paterno at Penn State during the rape cover-up? Any chance they were involved? Since Joe is dead and the family is in smug denial....maybe there is a way to bust their denial with criminal charges if they did participate in the cover up.
I'm not football smart so I am clueless regarding the Paterno family.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)Was an asst coach @ PSU. No evidence he knew about any of this
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)MadHound
(34,179 posts)Somebody else would have taken it down for them, and possibly a good chunk of the surrounding property with it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)they really need to stfu. yes.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Ugh.
votedems999
(10 posts)But, you can't have a pedophile statue in front of the kids....I would hurt their poor little donations...Penn State disgusts me.
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)simply cannot accept that he enabled a monster for years and years...
sP
malaise
(269,054 posts)STFU
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)He's one of those typical 'rich kids' who scoot by life based on a famous last name although to be fair, JoePa never acted like a wealthy man but his kid Scott sure did everything he could to milk the Paterno last name.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Scott Paterno is a giant asshole slug
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)They come across as more ignorant and self serving every time they speak to the media
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)I understand loving a sport, and worshiping a football coach.
I live in Alabama where some really believed "the Bear" could walk on water.
Somehow sports have never meant anything to me so really don't care who wins or who the coach is.
It does drive me crazy that the coaches make as much as the entire teaching and support staff of some departments, all while tuition continues to go up.
If JoePa was the chair of a department and Sandusky was the assistant chair a few things would be different.
1. There would not have been a statue to take down.
2. No one would worry about the reputation of the department chair.
3. Police wouldn't have looked the other way.
4. The president wouldn't have looked the other way.
5. The first reaction to some of the students and alum would not have been to doubt the kids.
6. The trusties would have not have been so out of touch to miss what was happening.
7. The press would have not covered it beyond maybe a day or two.
8. Chances are the reaction by the department chair would have been the poor kids, not we need to treat the rapist in a human fashion and what the F*&K with this do to MY reputation.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Would be the same as Paterno. I think Carolina would have handled it like in your scenario, too.
soccer1
(343 posts)that's appropriate, IMO. But, maybe the Paterno family doesn't understand that their complete devotion to and love for Joe does not extend to the community at large. Unfortunately, Joe was given god-like status at the university. And apparently some people, including his family, are dismayed that this man, as much as he has contributed in a positive way to the university, has been demoted to "mere mortal". Joe was human, he erred, and the error was a biggie.
Anyway, maybe Penn state will offer to give the statue to the Paterno family.
Btw, it is customary for universities to erect statues of living coaches?
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)If his dad wasn't famous he'd be scraping by doing minimum wage jobs. Hell Paterno couldn't even win an election and his dad even helped move him to a GOP friendly district that was a big PSU fanbase and he STILL lost by 10 points (about 6 years ago he ran for US Congress in PA17).
Spazito
(50,365 posts)they are making it very hard to have any sympathy for them at all. I have none. They have NO compassion for the victims of Sandusky AND Paterno as well as the rest of the despicable enablers, imo.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)It's the first step in dismantling the hero worship of the football program, which was responsible for the cover-up. The less of that there is, the less the chance a future scandal, there or elsewhere, will get covered up (because if Penn State stops worshipping football as the primary purpose of the university, there's less pressure on rival universities to do the same - it will help everyone get back to a proper perspective).
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Can you imagine how that statue would be defaced if it was left in place?
It wouldn't look very pretty with "molester", "pedophile" and "perv" spray painted all over it.
And that's just the beginning of what would happen if they didn't remove it.
This is about the first thing the Penn State administration has done that I agree with.
That statue was a lightning rod and it needed to go.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)Joe Paterno just dessert will be to go down in sports history infamy.
I hope their asses get sued off in civil court and even think it wrong the library retains their ame.