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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. We could start dealing with the real Internet problem - lack of competition at the "last mile"
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:36 PM
Dec 2017

Internet provider level.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
4. Last mile should be a public utility
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:43 PM
Dec 2017

like water, sewer, or electricity... either run by a city service or a regulated utility.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)
5. talking about that this am
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

don't anticipate any instant change
one of the carriers will put a toe in the water and the others will closely watch it.

i would imagine the marketing teams have been at work trying to make this sound as a customer benefit...one of those wonderful ...in order to serve you better letters....

so be on the look out

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
6. More and more municipalities are setting up their own broadband
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:46 PM
Dec 2017

I posted about the efforts along the front range of Colorado, including the experiene of Longmont which is quite far along.

I also posted about the intense $$ efforts Comcast and its buddies used to try to defeat a ballot measure in November, for Fort Collins to do the same (Boulder is pursuing as well). Against an onslaught of propaganda commercials topping off at nearly $1 million when it was done, the people of Fort Collins approved the measure.
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029815700


Well, here's the take (update) now in the light of net neutrality being voted down:

Ending net neutrality could be a boon for Fort Collins municipal broadband

Ending net neutrality could be a boon for Fort Collins municipal broadband
Consider this paradox: If federal rules protecting net neutrality are rescinded, it could prove a boon to Fort Collins' municipal broadband efforts.

Federal net neutrality rules, set to be voted on by the Federal Communications Commission on Thursday, require internet service providers to treat all data the same. Open-internet supporters warn that rescinding those rules could lead to Internet-based companies being forced to pay more to have their services offered to consumers — for example, slowing Netflix streams so much they come with their own antique dial-up tones unless Netflix pays a premium.

If those fears materialize — Comcast has pledged not to discriminate against content — it could be a marketing tool for Fort Collins' planned municipal broadband effort. The Fort Collins City Council will develop policies around net neutrality and privacy for its users later in the project.

Council members have already advocated for maintaining net neutrality principles and enshrining privacy protections for city-run broadband. It is listed as a potential "market differentiator" on the city's high-level business plan concerning municipal broadband.
--more-- http://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2017/12/13/ending-net-neutrality-could-boon-fort-collins-municipal-broadband/946923001/

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
9. I think it is pretty much municipality by municipality, though the groups lobbying in each
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:24 PM
Dec 2017

likely would share their experience/advice. If you google Longmont, CO or Fort Collins pro-municipal broadband groups you'd likely get a start. I know communities in other states are doing this as well, including the Northeast.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
7. Is this worth calling my congressman over
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:47 PM
Dec 2017

OR is this completely out of his hands.

I run a business on Etsy. I'd hate to see them intentionally slowed because Amazon is paying for more bandwidth.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
10. Call and tell them you want Congress to act to restore the 2015 Pro-Net Neutrality regulations
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:26 PM
Dec 2017

Ironically, one of my RETHUG Senators (Corey Gardner) actually asked for a delay on the vote in light of the comments fraud. So, my guess is they are hearing from their own RW constituency as well.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
11. Done
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

I told the staffer about how it would effect my Etsy store and the bottom line and she asked me if I had the store prior to 2015 (I did not).

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. Her asking about the 2015 regulations is evidence they
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:04 PM
Dec 2017

Don't know what they are talking about.

For example content streaming like Netflix and Amazon video was much smaller than it is today. As it is, before net neutrality Verizon and Comcast throttled Netflix, what will they do know that it's more popular and more isps are also content creators? Comparing two different time periods especially with the rapid change of the Internet and how we use it, is massively stupid. Streaming video especially as we move to more and more high quality video, online games (where lag is a killer), most software, streaming music, our data in the cloud, everything is online.

But also rules requiring disclosure of fees and data caps are gone. And the FCC is claiming the right to block states and cities from requiring that information be provided.

Likewise rules against isps blocking voice over ip gone.

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