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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCongratulations Donald Trump and Roy Moore! You are no longer the most hated men in America!
Ajit Pai has replaced both of you! If there's anything that is going to unite the two parties, it is this! 83% of the country approves of Net Neutrality. Only ISPs and major corporations and those who stand to profit disapprove of it. Thanks Ajit Pai, you are now the most hated man in America! Bravo, well done! Take a bow! Oh and fuck you!
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)in that particular rocket ship to hell.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)There are so many, many ways to hate Trump. He is so prolific.
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)Owl
(3,642 posts)How is he cashing in on this? I suppose its the salary and benefits us lowly citizens pay him.
klook
(12,157 posts)when he heads back out the revolving door.
calimary
(81,306 posts)Pai is a schmuck. But trump out-schmucks everybody.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)agree.
BannonsLiver
(16,396 posts)At this point you couldnt round up 10 people on the street who know who this guy is.
bucolic_frolic
(43,177 posts)i have planned to shut down, disconnect my landline and ISP ... it will happen, the next price increase.
feasibility has been studied, practiced ... i will not contribute to the bottom line of these companies
no cable, no internet ... there are wifi spots - free, there are other means of learning the news
leftieNanner
(15,119 posts)these rule changes might mean that access to sites like our beloved DU might be thwarted. Even free wifi spots won't help us there.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)more asshole in the club. Along with McConnell, Ryan, Sessions, DeVos, Mulvaney, and basically pretty much every other republican in congress.
Initech
(100,080 posts)All of them equally deplorable, the rate of deplorability changes every week. It's the asshole theory!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)They forget that ISPs have always been able to charge for data usage and premiums for speed.
They don't realize that the abolition of Net Neutrality means ISPs can discriminate against service providers, like their dearly loved Free Republic.
4 posted on 12/14/2017, 2:38:43 PM by rigelkentaurus
8 posted on 12/14/2017, 2:40:53 PM by Oldeconomybuyer
It makes the carriers mere regulated utilities like your local phone provider, or power provider...limited to eight cents on the dollar in profit. And FORCED to sell their services to their competitors at cost.
Thats what will kill the internet as we know it. The march of broadband will stop except as forced by government regulation and subsidy. Additional leaps beyond the 40gbs backbone (to 100gbs and beyond) will be stillborn.
The internet will be frozen in its current state. All the while the content providers are free to make as much money as they can even though the people who built the internet have no reason to invest in further expansion.
When the great bandwidth crunch comes, OR the complete burn down of all available IP addresses under IPv4, the content providers will then scream for further regulation to force the carriers to invest without return.
Net Neutrality means Marxist Internet.
And Ive been in the network business for over 40 years.
46 posted on 12/14/2017 11:03:43 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
In simple terms, consider FedEx, UPS and the USPS. When you send a package, the cost is based on weight and volume in proportion to the resources needed to ship it. Net neutrality amounts to a government decree that flat rate shipping applies. The cost to ship a bowling ball or a post card is identical (even though the resources required to deliver are far from equal). Small e-mails are the postcards. Streaming 4k UHD movies are bowling balls. A movie monopolizes significant bandwidth for extended periods. E-mail and casual net browsing are bursty transfers with lots of idle time between uses. The kind of network infrastructure required to provide good service to those vastly different types of usage is significant. The ISP that provisions for 5,000 e-mail users and is suddenly saddled with 1,000 streaming movie watchers is going to have an angry customer base. Traffic can be segregated by type to utilize the network efficiently as provisioned. Want to watch movies? Then pay a rate for hardware that must be dedicated for hours on end to serve you.
131 posted on 12/14/2017 12:55:53 PM PST by Myrddin
justgamma
(3,666 posts)that Soros is planning on buying up all the ISP's, so he can charge the rightie's more. They'll be begging for neutrality.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)I hope it's true.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)They served us well for a long time.
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)...
Thekaspervote
(32,773 posts)And, here's a really good NYT article as to why the f..Kerr won't win
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/opinion/courts-net-neutrality-fcc.html
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)It's not just the USA and it's not just the privileged/developed countries that American business can squeeze another couple of nickels out of. It's the entire world that depends on the system that WE created.
Suddenly we're changing all the rules, and they have no say. They can't vote out the Republican assholes like we (presumably) can. The rest of the emerging countries will suddenly be left out because they can't pay more, and they won't understand how this happened.
Where's the jsutice? Where's the outrage? This is so WRONG!
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Also any moves that tried to impose measures other countries don't want will just increase the speed at which they divest themselves from any dependency on the US.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)It's gone now.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)I noticed it when I was visiting Lithuania a few years ago (their unemployment rate was hovering at 30%, but their data rates put our infrastructure in a category youd expect to find most 3rd World countries).
Kimmel is right: FCC Chair Ajit Pie (A 💩 🥧) is despicable!
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)with Pharma Bro...
7962
(11,841 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)Owl
(3,642 posts)calimary
(81,306 posts)about Paul Ryan and his sudden musings about retirement next year. He thinks it has to do more with the latest reports that many more reps may be busted for sex scandals. Hey, who knows? All I can say is - stranger things have happened.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)His name recognition is close to zero.
Initech
(100,080 posts)83% of Americans know this is a bad idea and that's something both parties can agree on. He won't last long in anonymity.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)People are definitely become more aware of the issue - especially now.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Stainless
(718 posts)The Trump administration is the gift that keeps on giving. Lock em all up, every swinging dick!
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Victims usually know they have it. Still, it is a good analogy.
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D_Master81
(1,822 posts)I see plenty of repubs around me celebrating the internet being free again.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Is doing any public roaming right now, I'm pretty sure if recognized someone would push his teeth down his throat.....I would.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)He's gonna need a better disguise than the one in his ludicrous infomercial