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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:19 PM Dec 2017

Trump Administration Moves To Kill Rules For Organic Eggs

Source: NPR

Trump Administration Moves To Kill Rules For Organic Eggs

December 15, 20175:20 PM ET
DAN CHARLES

The Trump administration has announced plans to withdraw a regulation that would have required organic egg producers to give their hens room to graze outdoors.

The move was widely anticipated; the U.S. Department of Agriculture has repeatedly delayed the date on which these regulations would go into effect. But organic advocates still reacted with outrage and promised to fight the decision in court.

It's an unusual situation, because in this case the demand for regulation is coming from the very organic farmers who would need to meet those new rules. But those farmers say those rules are needed to maintain a level playing field in the organic industry.

Current organic rules require animals to have "access" to the outdoors. The largest egg producers, however, have built chicken houses that hold tens of thousands of hens, and the hens have access to the outdoors only through small enclosed "porches." Under the new rules, finalized at the end of the Obama administration, these porches would no longer be adequate.

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Read more: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/12/15/571187112/trump-administration-moves-to-kill-rules-for-organic-eggs
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Trump Administration Moves To Kill Rules For Organic Eggs (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2017 OP
The rules are pretty pathetic anyway. What they need to do is subsidize farming for mucifer Dec 2017 #1
Good point. NT enough Dec 2017 #7
"Shut up and eat your corporate-industrial egg-like rations." - RepubliCorp, Inc. Achilleaze Dec 2017 #2
This is why I pay 7 bucks a dozen. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #16
so glad I handmade34 Dec 2017 #3
Would not be surprised if the administration tries to ban nutrition labeling altogether Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #4
And Crisco MFM008 Dec 2017 #5
I fully expect them to do exactly that. Ilsa Dec 2017 #6
Makes me want to get my own chickens Phoenix61 Dec 2017 #8
Why the insistence on keeping chickens indoors anyway? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #9
Haven't you ever seen Chicken Run? Danmel Dec 2017 #11
They don't do well in a freezing rain. FarCenter Dec 2017 #12
That explains not keeping them out all the time-but why not just let them wander in and out Ken Burch Dec 2017 #14
The answer is simple: MONEY. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #15
Practically speaking: predators MissB Dec 2017 #17
On an industrial poultry farm, couldn't that be taken care of with a perimiter fence? Ken Burch Dec 2017 #20
Possibly but scale is important MissB Dec 2017 #21
I'm just saying that, since they're doing large-scale chicken farming anyway... Ken Burch Dec 2017 #22
We need ad funding. Every regulation he Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #10
WTF? Now they're going after chickens? Vinca Dec 2017 #13
If McDonalds doesn't need them, neither do you..... brooklynite Dec 2017 #18
GOP agenda: screw everybody and everything that isn't a billionaire campaign contributor. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #19

mucifer

(23,547 posts)
1. The rules are pretty pathetic anyway. What they need to do is subsidize farming for
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:29 PM
Dec 2017

vegetables and fruits the way they do for meat eggs and dairy.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
3. so glad I
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:31 PM
Dec 2017

have my own chickens (and they have acres, though they don't venture far in the snow)




everyday I don't think I can become more disgusted by DT, but then I do....

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)
4. Would not be surprised if the administration tries to ban nutrition labeling altogether
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:38 PM
Dec 2017

Nutrition is obviously a liberal George Soros left-Coast plot against Christians. Look how healthy the 71 year old is on a diet of salt and preservatives and very little exercise.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. Why the insistence on keeping chickens indoors anyway?
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 10:40 PM
Dec 2017

It's not like they'd figure out how to escape or anything.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. That explains not keeping them out all the time-but why not just let them wander in and out
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:17 PM
Dec 2017

as chickens naturally do?

Why is it necessary to make them live and die entirely inside?

MissB

(15,810 posts)
17. Practically speaking: predators
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:34 PM
Dec 2017

I have 6 chickens on my half acre. They have a 6’x6’ hen house that opens into a 12’x10’ fully enclosed pen that is covered and dry. When I’m home, I open the door to the enclosed pen so they can wander the whole half acre.

When I’m not here, they have their house and pen. Nothing gets in. If there wasn’t an enclosed pen, I’d find only feathers in a day or so. Hawks, coyotes, raccoons.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
20. On an industrial poultry farm, couldn't that be taken care of with a perimiter fence?
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 04:51 PM
Dec 2017

Which is something they'd be likely to have anyway to ward off trespassing, vandalism or theft?

(Not speaking about YOUR situation there...it's just that you'd think fencing off commercial agricultural property would simply be part of the deal).

MissB

(15,810 posts)
21. Possibly but scale is important
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:41 PM
Dec 2017

I can afford to set a concrete footing in the ground and bury wire to keep the predators that dig from coming in. I also keep things covered up top to keep hawks from diving in. Chickens are apparently very tasty creatures.

I have friends that have some sort of small scale egg farm and their barn is fairly secure with some big covered outdoor space. But now and then something finds a way in and slaughters a few hens, even with roosters standing guard. Multiply that size a bunch and I’m guessing it becomes even more difficult to keep things secure.

I’m not arguing for large scale farming of chickens. I keep hens so that I don’t have to deal with factory eggs, and it’s easy for me to do. But it’s hard to keep predators out!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
22. I'm just saying that, since they're doing large-scale chicken farming anyway...
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:45 PM
Dec 2017

You'd think they could deal with this with the fencing they'd already logically have.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. We need ad funding. Every regulation he
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:06 AM
Dec 2017

Brags about getting rid of has a bad consequence...people need to know. Obviously DNC has to money or inclination

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