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edhopper

(33,582 posts)
2. Yes
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:00 AM
Dec 2017

but many times tax cuts have a time line to keep them "fiscally sound:.

Repealing them means raising taxes, which is harder to do politically. Which is why the GOP did this.
Because they are scumbags.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. But the majority of people oppose this tax give away.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:04 AM
Dec 2017

I would think repealing them would be very popular.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. One would. But the right wing powers who brought us to this point
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:17 AM
Dec 2017

won't be going anywhere. The new ultraconservative billionaires behind this have more money than any group at any point in history. They also have in place a highly developed mass media operation that will continue to keep conservatives from uniting with the left into a force that could just turn things around. After all, both the Tea Party and Trump were attempted rebellions against them that they were able to control and turn to their own use.

Even if we take control of Congress in 2018, and we must!, they will be able to field a great deal of opposition to whatever we try to do.

And it has almost nothing to do with Trump, so putting him out of office would make little difference. The big powers with their almost unlimited money and use of mass media would just keep doing what is working so well for them, adjusting their tactics to the current situation as needed.

We're going to have to destroy the new billionaire class that is incompatible with the principle of one man, one vote before we get control back.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
7. Heard someone on TV say that they want the democrats to have to raise taxes.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:14 AM
Dec 2017

Which will probably happen after the republicans put the economy in the crapper. It's the same old cycle. They crash the economy and democrats have to rebuild it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. I asked the same thing the other day, and as someone said, it means there's no expiration, but...
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:05 AM
Dec 2017

...they can be repealed.

Igel

(35,317 posts)
10. They just mean something other than what you mean.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 11:59 AM
Dec 2017

It's like the "permanent bases" in Iraq. There, "permanent" meant "built" as opposed to "tents and trucks," which were "temporary."

Here, "permanent" means "it'll stay in place until somebody takes action to change it," as opposed to time-limited tax cuts that sunset. Or are "temporary."

It's like my "permanent" job. It's not like I'll be working there in 300 years. Might not be working there next year. But the job isn't slated for being discontinued, I was hired with the understanding that I'd be there long-term, and I have no plans to leave. Unlike my wife when she was a post-doc on a one-year contract (temporary, employer-side), or when I got a job with a CPA while in grad school (with the understanding that when I finished, as I surely would, I'd leave).

Context matters. The *speaker's* context, most of all.

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