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Joe Scarborough and I agree for once (Original Post) SHRED Dec 2017 OP
k and r Achilleaze Dec 2017 #1
joe and mika have been on top of Trump for a while now. I think you'd be surprised how many times blimablam Dec 2017 #2
Follow the money thbobby Dec 2017 #3
"They are anti-Trump now because it brings ratings " pangaia Dec 2017 #4
Whatever you think of "Joe", surely you agree with the point the tweet makes? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #5
Absolutely do agree thbobby Dec 2017 #9
The Text of the Tweet Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #6
They've also been personally insulted by Trashbag so that didn't help. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #7
Beware of allowing cynicism to obscure the truth. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #8
They are against Trump now True Blue American Dec 2017 #11
Morning Joe aggressively anti-Trump Juliusseizure Dec 2017 #13
Integrity should come first thbobby Dec 2017 #14
Here we go again, diminishing our heroes leanforward Dec 2017 #10
I like that photo of him RandomAccess Dec 2017 #12
Me too! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #16
K&R... spanone Dec 2017 #15

blimablam

(121 posts)
2. joe and mika have been on top of Trump for a while now. I think you'd be surprised how many times
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:41 PM
Dec 2017

you'd be in agreement with them now. freaky weird times.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
3. Follow the money
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 01:57 PM
Dec 2017

I distrust Joe and Mika as journalists. They are anti-Trump now because it brings ratings (hence money). They embraced Trump before the election because it brought ratings. They attacked Hilary before the election because a close election helped their ratings.

Journalism should be about exposing the truth. With Joe and Mika it is about getting the ratings. Of course, the same is true about much of MSM. Rachel Maddow does real journalism. Many others do not.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
5. Whatever you think of "Joe", surely you agree with the point the tweet makes?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:05 PM
Dec 2017

Agree in spades?

Agree wholeheartedly?

I do.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
9. Absolutely do agree
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:24 PM
Dec 2017

His tweet if completely true and to the point.

My point is I always have to examine what they say or tweet with skepticism. I have agreed with much they have recently said. I am also wary of them. Truth is of prime importance for journalists. Given their history, I believe ratings are often their prime motivation.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
6. The Text of the Tweet
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:09 PM
Dec 2017

Robert Mueller:

-Guided America through 9/11
-Awarded the Bronze Star with Combat "V" for valor in battle
  -The Purple Heart
-Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal w/ Combat "V" for valor
-The Vietnam Gallantry Cross
He is an American hero.
His attackers are a disgrace.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
11. They are against Trump now
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:35 PM
Dec 2017

Because he went after them.

During the campaign they allowed Trump to call in every morning,their dear friend.

Not Journalists at all,cable host hacks.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
13. Morning Joe aggressively anti-Trump
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 07:23 PM
Dec 2017

I watch regularly because they're probably the MOST openly anti-Trump show out there. They're really commentators, not journalists.

This tweet is mild compared to Scarborough's statements. There's no more vocal opponent than Brzezinski.

Their motivations could be both personal and political. What matters is what they say. I don't even care if its genuine. What matters is they influence millions of people in positive ways.

The mass media as a whole did a pathetic job during the campaign. They've been doing a shit job for years, ever since cable started. I think they, i.e., most corporate heads, wanted Trump to win. Apprentice ratings winner. Charismatic. If it bleeds, it leads. Trump is a bloody mess.

So it's presumed ratings is always a factor. Its ALWAYS a factor. That's how you stay on the air. Broadcasters are privately owned companies. Please don't make an exception of Rachel Maddow. The fact she's reporting on Russia and Russia is a ratings hit is not coincidental.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
14. Integrity should come first
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 08:00 PM
Dec 2017

When a network calls what it does news, honesty and integrity should come first. Diligent and honest journalism will generate ratings.

I often lament how after a mass shooting, a days news cycle will be about who was the killer, why did he do it, how many pictures of him can be shown, what about his family, what about his friends. All of this may be newsworthy but could be reported in a one hour block. But dragging it out a day is a way to drive up ratings without much investigative journalism. Not to mention it gives deranged people a day in the sun.

America needs to expect and demand more from journalists than just flashy stories and lazy journalism.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
10. Here we go again, diminishing our heroes
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:29 PM
Dec 2017

I sure would like to pull a few practical jokes on those GOP reps I saw jabbering on MSNBC last evening blasting SC Mueller.

I am sick and tired of the my fellow citizens not being heard and heeded because of campaign money contributions.

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