But just like on TV, we can all simply duck, amirite?

then you are a menace.

Thank you for raising an interesting point, never thought of anyone wanting to be a menace to Bloomberg's bodyguards much less Bloomberg himself. Has he or his bodyguards been menaced?

I refuse to vote for anyone, state, local, or national level who takes money from or who is supported by the NRA!

You might want to review your convictions.

Its only the rethuglicans who are a problem. If we can just get rid of them Harry wont need to take NRA money to defeat his Koch backed opponents. Its not like Harry is influenced by them he just takes their money.

We have to get guns off the streets completly. Only law officers and our soldiers need weapons and if it wasnt for these teabaggers clutching their guns and bibles we could make our streets safe for everyone.

Only LE and military should have weapons? Thats called a Police State.
These guys thought so to.

once this obsolete law from the 18th century is done away with stiff penalties can be handed out to any offenders. Have a war on guns and throw all these teabagger neanderthals in jail where they belong.

why don't you get right on that.
You can't even get a majority of DU'ers to agree to that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=979625

And by the way, I copyrighted jackhole seven years ago. You owe me $7.68 to my paypal account-

...on private ownership of firearms.

There may be some who are no danger to society because of their guns but because of allowing them to have guns we allow the crooks to have them too. The only way to keep guns from the criminals is eliminate them entirely from the public

Or what you think I should be allowed to own.

But to answer your question, people need firearms for hunting, varmint control, and self-defense. Collecting and target shooting are also perfectly valid reasons for owning firearms.

If you read my prior posts, you will know why

Oh, and even if you somehow managed a miracle far more impressive than the parting of the Red Sea and actually did eliminate all firearms, how would you then propose to address the resulting situation in which smaller, weaker people have no effective recourse against predation by larger, stronger ones? Did you think this through at all?

I hope you enjoy your stay..



I would turn it down a bit from 11 if I were you, I don't think you're fooling too many of the old timers.

Or have you broken the knob off?

The point is very simple: Law-abiding citizens need guns for
a) self-defense
b) hunting
c) recreation


If you need more than 10 bullets to fend of a mugger or a burglar, you probably shouldn't own a gun.

If you need more than 10 bullets to kill a deer, you probably shouldn't go hunting.
If you use a rifle designed for war to kill for fun, you probably shouldn't go hunting.

If you really, REALLY go off on shooting big guns, your local gun-club can surely lend you one for the shooting-range.

a- we have police and the army to defend us
b- nobody needs to hunt anymore
c- recreation?

Are you talking about the same police that shoot, beat, murder innocent people?

I tried to play devil's advocate and these are the three arguments that could come up.

a - I know. They know. But some of them are still afraid.
b - Some view hunting as a sport. If I were a hunter, I would view it as a way to get quality-meat. Real meat. Not the cheap crap that comes from poor animals, stuffed with medication and antibiotica, so they grow ever faster. And then, right before they get slaughtered, they get other medication, so their body contains a lot of water so they net even more weight, and to heck with quality or health.
c - Shooting a gun is some sort of sport. So I guess, some people shoot guns to forget the stress and to relax.


For someone pro-gun, my arguments would make total sense.
But the conclusion is still the same: A law-abiding citizen doesn't need the capacity to kill more than 10 people at a time.

Shooting is in the both the summer and winter Olympics.

The police have no obligation to protect us (multiple court decisions). If you need them in seconds, they might get there in minutes. Also there are animal concerns that may need immediate attention.

Hunting for some in this country is a matter of survival. The twenty rounds used during deer or elk season can fill a freezer.

Turn off the computer and come out to the real world.

do you think meat magically appears ala star strek or something.

And take back your country?