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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:02 PM Dec 2017

Newsweek: Jackie Spier says rumor on Hill is that DT will fire Mueller over recess.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-mueller-next-week-750432

Democratic Congresswoman Jackie Spier said Friday the “rumor on the Hill” is that President Donald Trump intends to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller next week when Congress is gone for the holidays.

Should Trump go through with the unconfirmed rumor, Spier said an “effort” for impeachment would follow.

Spier added Republicans are aiming to shut down the House Intelligence Committee’s own Trump-Russia investigation and likened Trump’s possible firing of the special counsel to that of former President Richard Nixon’s infamous “Saturday Night Massacre.”

Her comments reflected those of the House committee’s ranking Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff, also of California, who stated Friday he was worried about the committee’s status and that of Mueller.

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Newsweek: Jackie Spier says rumor on Hill is that DT will fire Mueller over recess. (Original Post) pnwmom Dec 2017 OP
Time for this person Trump to go. I hope he's impeached. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Dec 2017 #17
And then what? A better, more efficient crypofascist Hortensis Dec 2017 #25
LOL, "I laid in a good supply of salt today. Cheap and made me feel better." n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #28
You laugh, but you'd like to have me for a neighbor Hortensis Dec 2017 #32
Pretty plant! RKP5637 Dec 2017 #36
My understanding is that he can't fire Mueller - Rosenstein would have to do it. CousinIT Dec 2017 #2
That's why it would be another Saturday Night Massacre marylandblue Dec 2017 #7
Rachel had five top lawyers from the Obama adm on her show last night and womanofthehills Dec 2017 #35
I think the consensus was that Hillary would win, too. n/t ClusterFreak Dec 2017 #39
Events are already planned across the US to protest ASAP! BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #27
Nixon's Sat Nite Massacre will seem pale in comparison bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #34
Nixon was not saved by the firing, it just proved his guilt scarytomcat Dec 2017 #38
Yes, but tRump is on record whining "Do Something!". He might do it in desperation. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #40
Thanks for that link! denvine Dec 2017 #37
I just RSVPed ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #41
I signed up deancr Dec 2017 #42
When or where? BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #43
For what it is worth there were rumors of Friday indictments too. Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #3
Did you see Adam Schiff speak about this? He is extremely concerned. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #9
Not by respected Congresswoman Jackie Spier. Duppers Dec 2017 #19
There are documented rumors of this going back to at least July 2017. Investigation won't end, even Hoyt Dec 2017 #4
Won't Trump have to order Rosenstein to fire Mueller? It didn't sound like Rosenstein was onboard skylucy Dec 2017 #5
Only Rosenstein can fire Mueller. leftofcool Dec 2017 #10
Often, these rumors are floated to grease the skids, so it won't come as a shock to people. TheBlackAdder Dec 2017 #6
Yep, boiling the frog! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #29
Tell Jackie Spier to keep her rumors to herself. This stuff is just not going to go away no matter.. marble falls Dec 2017 #8
Well, I don't know. He can't fire him directly... LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #11
GOP fund raising ploy. Everything they do and say is McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #12
What is a GOP fund raising ploy? Spier and Adam Schiff are Democrats, pnwmom Dec 2017 #13
Mueller is prepared aeromanKC Dec 2017 #14
Cool Story, Bro . stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #15
I am sick of "rumors" that end up being 100% BS. Tweets also. Worthless. n.t USALiberal Dec 2017 #16
Adam Schiff, as ranking member of the House Intelligence committee, is very concerned pnwmom Dec 2017 #18
I will worry when a real story is published where the word "RUMOR" is not in the story. nt USALiberal Dec 2017 #20
Adam Schiff is on a real video that you could watch expressing his concern. It's not a rumor pnwmom Dec 2017 #21
Rosenstein, himself, said he saw no reason to remove Mueller Roland99 Dec 2017 #22
DT would have to fire him first. The next person in line, Rachel Brand, pnwmom Dec 2017 #31
Why isn't Dianne Feinstein Tavarious Jackson Dec 2017 #23
Trump could repeal 28 C.F.R. 600.4-600.10 and then fire Mueller himself. FarCenter Dec 2017 #24
He can't oberliner Dec 2017 #26
Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #30
Nothing spells obstruction like firing the guy who's after you bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #33

Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. And then what? A better, more efficient crypofascist
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:41 PM
Dec 2017

Republican Party? He needs to go before he blows us all up, but we need to be careful what we wish for anyway.

Btw, speaking of blowing up, I laid in a good supply of salt today. Cheap and made me feel better.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. That's why it would be another Saturday Night Massacre
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:27 PM
Dec 2017

Rosenstein said he wouldn't do it. So he'll quit. Then it goes on down the line. But I suspect he will have a hard time finding someone to do it. The person who did it for Nixon was Robert Bork, and it ended up damaging his career. Also, if it fails, that person could be prosecuted for obstruction of justice as well.

womanofthehills

(8,712 posts)
35. Rachel had five top lawyers from the Obama adm on her show last night and
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:20 PM
Dec 2017

the consensus was - Trump probably would not fire Mueller.

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
27. Events are already planned across the US to protest ASAP!
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:51 PM
Dec 2017

We have been set and ready to mobilize for the very day and at moments notice if he is fired. I signed up and posted it twice. A lot of cities are prepared and ready to go. In fact another DUer asked about sign ideas so I will make one this weekend. Check out the link and see if your city is on the list and if not, then plan your own.

https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/search/

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
38. Nixon was not saved by the firing, it just proved his guilt
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

Don Jon will not be saved either.
He will tarnish the cons. Heads will roll just like in the Nixon administration.
The cons would be better served to let this play out and go to Don Jon at the end and say it is time to go.
And let a Ford pardon him.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
40. Yes, but tRump is on record whining "Do Something!". He might do it in desperation.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:37 PM
Dec 2017

The tRump Gang and the RepubliCONgress don't have many options and none of them are good for them.

Their best option would be to 25th Trump ASAP. It would be the most face-saving (and somewhat brand-saving) for them.

Next best is impeachment & conviction or getting him to resign ASAP in the face of certain i & c.

The longer they dither the more their brand is damaged.

Some of them and their propaganda arm Fox Noise still believe they can tamp this down and get past it. They have made a very bad bet.

denvine

(802 posts)
37. Thanks for that link!
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:25 PM
Dec 2017

I was wondering how we can take to the streets if he would do such a thing! I really hope every city in the country gets clogged up!

BigmanPigman

(51,607 posts)
43. When or where?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 07:21 PM
Dec 2017

Time will tell. This will not go quietly into the night nor will it be brushed under the carpet. If anything, it will motivate and energize louder, stronger and angrier people to do something/anything (especially the Dem reps). The grass roots is NOT going away as they wish and hope it would or falsely proclaim it has on Fux Ruse and right wing radio propaganda.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
19. Not by respected Congresswoman Jackie Spier.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:27 PM
Dec 2017

I trust her.

I'm ready to drive to D.C. whenever necessary to join the march.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. There are documented rumors of this going back to at least July 2017. Investigation won't end, even
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:12 PM
Dec 2017

if he does do it.

skylucy

(3,739 posts)
5. Won't Trump have to order Rosenstein to fire Mueller? It didn't sound like Rosenstein was onboard
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:14 PM
Dec 2017

for that when he testified this week. That said, if Trump does find a way to fire Mueller, and he gets away with it...I fear that our country will never recover. Our laws and our constitution will be a joke. God bless America? No, God help us all.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
10. Only Rosenstein can fire Mueller.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:38 PM
Dec 2017

Dump can order it but Rosenstein will refuse. Dump can fire Rosenstein and Sessions but will have to appoint someone to get past the Senate committee on confirmation. It could take months. In the mean time, Mueller has a dead man's switch in place.

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
6. Often, these rumors are floated to grease the skids, so it won't come as a shock to people.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:17 PM
Dec 2017

They are trying to make people numb to the idea.

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
8. Tell Jackie Spier to keep her rumors to herself. This stuff is just not going to go away no matter..
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:32 PM
Dec 2017

much the Orange Shitgibbon wishes it.

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
11. Well, I don't know. He can't fire him directly...
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:42 PM
Dec 2017

so he is going to really have to jump through hoops to do it.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. What is a GOP fund raising ploy? Spier and Adam Schiff are Democrats,
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:50 PM
Dec 2017

and they're both worried that Mueller is about to be fired.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. Adam Schiff, as ranking member of the House Intelligence committee, is very concerned
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

about this possibility.

We should take his concern seriously.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
21. Adam Schiff is on a real video that you could watch expressing his concern. It's not a rumor
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:30 PM
Dec 2017

that he's worried about it.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
22. Rosenstein, himself, said he saw no reason to remove Mueller
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:31 PM
Dec 2017

Was Bill Clinton not capable of firing Ken Starr?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
31. DT would have to fire him first. The next person in line, Rachel Brand,
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:02 PM
Dec 2017

is a Republican who is thought to be more likely to cave.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
23. Why isn't Dianne Feinstein
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:38 PM
Dec 2017

Holding Grassley's feet to the fire? Please do not accuse me of ageism. She is too old to have the fight we need in the party. It's energy not ageism

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
33. Nothing spells obstruction like firing the guy who's after you
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:07 PM
Dec 2017

and promising you're going to purge the FBI and you'll always have their back (once they are purged of that investigation)

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