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Different Drummer

(7,617 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:36 PM Dec 2017

POLL: Majority of Trump voters would support him even if he colluded with Russia

Source: Business Insider


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A majority of President Donald Trump's voters surveyed by the left-leaning Public Policy Polling (PPP) believe he should continue to serve as president even if it's proven that he conspired with Russia to sway the 2016 election.

Just 14% of Trump voters said he should resign in the event that special counsel Robert Mueller or the congressional intelligence committees find that he colluded with Russia. On the other hand, 77% of Trump voters believe he should remain in office if the collusion claims are proven true. When Democrats and independent voters were factored into the results, 37% of respondents said they believed Trump should stay in office if he colluded with Russia.

The survey also found that 52% of respondents believe members of Trump's campaign team worked with Russia to help him clinch the presidency. The results were split along partisan lines: while 86% of those who voted for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton believe the Trump-Russia allegations, just 13% of Trump voters do.

These polls come as special counsel Robert Mueller continues the FBI investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election, including whether members of Trump's campaign colluded with Moscow to tilt the election in his favor. Mueller is also looking into whether Trump sought to obstruct justice when he fired FBI director James Comey in May.


More at [link:http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-voters-support-him-even-he-colluded-with-russia-2017-12|

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POLL: Majority of Trump voters would support him even if he colluded with Russia (Original Post) Different Drummer Dec 2017 OP
no surprise here, they praise putin AlexSFCA Dec 2017 #1
Deplorable traitors. Kingofalldems Dec 2017 #2
When the actual undenial facts come out and the treason is illuminated even the deplorables Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #3
They asked the wrong question marylandblue Dec 2017 #4
Good point. Doodley Dec 2017 #5
Traitors Achilleaze Dec 2017 #6
wow. can't say i'm surprised, though. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #7
In the middle of the depression. 40% voted Hoover. They are called the ignorant base. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #8
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ pbmus Dec 2017 #9
Than reframe the message: Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #10
Well there are a whole lot more of us who despise him and will never support him. MrsCoffee Dec 2017 #11
It does seem his base is completely clueless. Ignorant and willingly so. Tipperary Dec 2017 #12
This voter thinks those voters should lose their right to vote ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #13
Its the desired outcome when forming a cult. VOX Dec 2017 #14
Looks like Hillary nailed it when she called them triron Dec 2017 #15
The support for Trump from "Trump voters" may never change much -- or struggle4progress Dec 2017 #16

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. When the actual undenial facts come out and the treason is illuminated even the deplorables
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:44 PM
Dec 2017

will turn. Enough anyway that Shitler will not have his civil war.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. They asked the wrong question
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:46 PM
Dec 2017

The actual question was:
"If evidence comes out that proves conclusively that members of Donald Trump’s campaign
team worked in association with Russia to help Trump win the election for President, do you
think Trump should continue to serve as President, or do you think he should resign?"

They should have asked, "If evidence comes out conclusively proving that Donald Trump committed election fraud or obstructed justice, should he resign?

I bet that would get a different answer.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. In the middle of the depression. 40% voted Hoover. They are called the ignorant base.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:07 PM
Dec 2017

Also, they are called the stupid assholes.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
10. Than reframe the message:
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:21 PM
Dec 2017

"Tump colluded with Russia to personally profit and did not care if he sold out his country to be Putin's Bitch!"

That's how you frame it!

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
11. Well there are a whole lot more of us who despise him and will never support him.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:27 PM
Dec 2017

And I don't think he'll last another six months in office to be honest. He will resign and declare victory.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
12. It does seem his base is completely clueless. Ignorant and willingly so.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:30 PM
Dec 2017

This is still astonishing to me. These people are very frightened people. Stupid and easily led. It makes me sad. I have no friends or relatives in that number, but my work puts me in contact with them. I see them and I hear them. It is utterly astonishing how they think, because most of them are good people who would be right there if you needed something.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
13. This voter thinks those voters should lose their right to vote
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:31 PM
Dec 2017

If anyone believes high treason is ok, they should be shipped over to Putin.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
14. Its the desired outcome when forming a cult.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:35 PM
Dec 2017

Undermine factual sources, sow doubt and confusion and hatred repeatedly: “FAKE NEWS!” “Deep state!” “Lock her up!” “George Soros is a Nazi collaborator!”

Lie to the uninformed that they are being screwed by political enemies, and repeat it endlessly on a dedicated propaganda “news” channel, low-intellect websites, and non-stop talk radio.

Calling it a “bubble” is too nice. It’s an ALTERNATE REALITY as created and orchestrated by cult leaders; anything else is “deep state” and characterized as an existential threat. Trust no one except cult leaders, they know what’s best.

Ever notice that even when they’re holding ALL the marbles (as they do now), they nevertheless act as if they’re under siege? That, in their minds, they’re locked in a desperate struggle, and behave as such?

Perfect example: radio host/nutcase Alex Jones recently claimed that if “they remove Trump” after his “classic Americana being promoted and détente with Christian Russia,” it will cause a “massive civil war.”

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
16. The support for Trump from "Trump voters" may never change much -- or
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:01 PM
Dec 2017

may actually increase -- but the numbers might be increasingly misleading

He's been losing support all year: strong supporters continue at a certain rate to become weak supporters; weak supporters continue to drift back into the "undecided" or "they're all useless" category from which many of them came; the undecided slowly wander into weak opponents; and so on

So the absolute number of self-proclaimed "Trump voters" is probably decreasing, containing more and more people resistant to changing their views of him. As this happens, the fraction of self-proclaimed "Trump voters" who think he should resign becomes less relevant to our political analysis

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