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MatthewG.

(362 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 08:49 PM Dec 2017

Maybe the truth really is out there! (New details on Pentagon UFO studies emerge)

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Two very interesting, almost science-fiction sounding articles appeared in today’s New York Times about the U.S. Government’s studies of UFO phenomena.

Apparently, a program was begun in 2007 to research UFO’s.


“Hovering 50 feet above the churn was an aircraft of some kind — whitish — that was around 40 feet long and oval in shape. The craft was jumping around erratically, staying over the wave disturbance but not moving in any specific direction, Commander Fravor said. The disturbance looked like frothy waves and foam, as if the water were boiling.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.amp.html


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“For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times. It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.


The Defense Department has never before acknowledged the existence of the program, which it says it shut down in 2012. But its backers say that, while the Pentagon ended funding for the effort at that time, the program remains in existence. For the past five years, they say, officials with the program have continued to investigate episodes brought to them by service members, while also carrying out their other Defense Department duties.”

Sen. Harry Reid (among others) was involved in the program.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html?ad-keywords=ampmobile&partner=gamp

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Maybe the truth really is out there! (New details on Pentagon UFO studies emerge) (Original Post) MatthewG. Dec 2017 OP
Being from Nevada, maybe Reid knows the truth about Area 51. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #1
Its certainly interesting. MatthewG. Dec 2017 #2
It has always been of military interest, too many pilots talking about it. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #5
Well, theres also the Mormon angle justiceischeap Dec 2017 #3
I dont think thats it. MatthewG. Dec 2017 #4
So they think God is human and lives on another planet? Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #6
Its an interesting belief system. MatthewG. Dec 2017 #7
I was not aware of the LDS esoteric and astro-theology. Fascinating. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #8
Another choice quote... MatthewG. Dec 2017 #9
An explanation C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #10
😆 MatthewG. Dec 2017 #11

Irish_Dem

(47,263 posts)
1. Being from Nevada, maybe Reid knows the truth about Area 51.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 08:53 PM
Dec 2017

And that got him interested in the topic of UFOs.
Rumors at other Air Force bases about the topic are interesting.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
2. Its certainly interesting.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 08:58 PM
Dec 2017

Whatever the truth, it’s certainly interesting that this sort of thing is taken seriously by people at high levels of government. (And apparently in other governments.)

Irish_Dem

(47,263 posts)
5. It has always been of military interest, too many pilots talking about it.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:05 PM
Dec 2017

But kept hush hush, secret squirrel stuff.

If nothing else the military would like weapon system information.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
4. I dont think thats it.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:05 PM
Dec 2017

My dad went to Brigham Young (though he’s a secular Jew, not a Mormon) and I actually have long been interested in the LDS.


It is true that there are some astro-theological elements to the LDS : they understand God to be a literal being of flesh and bone who inhabits another world in physical space. Asking whether that makes Mormons more open to the possibility of extraterrestrial contact might make for an interesting cultural research study.

This seems to go beyond that, and involves other Senators as well as servicemen.

Irish_Dem

(47,263 posts)
6. So they think God is human and lives on another planet?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:08 PM
Dec 2017

Interesting. Yes it would make a good study to determine if Mormons have a higher rate of belief in UFOs, etc than non Mormons.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
7. Its an interesting belief system.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:11 PM
Dec 2017

I’m not Mormon, but it certainly is an interesting religion. The esoteric and astro-theological aspects of LDS theology have been downplayed a bit in the last several decades but they’re still part of the faith and may affect community beliefs.

Irish_Dem

(47,263 posts)
8. I was not aware of the LDS esoteric and astro-theology. Fascinating.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:14 PM
Dec 2017

Certainly is a possibility that Earth and humans were created by an advanced and talented species living on anther planet.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
9. Another choice quote...
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 09:44 PM
Dec 2017

“A 2009 Pentagon briefing summary of the program prepared by its director at the time asserted that “what was considered science fiction is now science fact,” and that the United States was incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies discovered. [Senator] Reid’s request for the special designation was denied.“

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