Mueller is one or two steps ahead of Trump at all times.

plan.

Hi back to you ProudMNDem.

Mueller is as smart as Shitgibbon and his troop are stupid.

sigh

Needed that good laugh!

less than a leg. They're just making shit up now to try to delay the process.

but they were shut down pretty quickly by Peter Carr: “When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process,”

You sigh....but it was propaganda by tRump Team...all emails collected with consent.

As per the OP....all was collected LEGALLY PER MUELLER...

reading the agreement that made the GSA the owner of the documents produced on the GSA's equipment.

Attacking the legality of the evidence looks to me to be much more of a public opinion move. They have to stake a position which allows for some doubt in the minds of their followers.

It doesn't have to be true, it just has to be plausible enough to confuse the issue for a certain special kind of person. Do that and the follower defaults to believing whatever the Republican told him.

What makes it so very frightening is that it's looking like the Trump Administration is soon going to have no legal standing, no support, and nothing but forty million armed redneck yahoos on their side. That might be all they need.

Anyone have an idea of who is actually behind this planned brutal attack against the US? Who has given the ill-informed redneck posse such a formidable arsenal? Who has incited them to hate? Who has impoverished them to make them hungry and mad? (I don't think any of the RW media are exactly hungry...)

I have suspicions and the movie fairy-tale versions of 007 seem to resonate. But it could actually be much more pernicious and hard to root out - a cancer within the capitalist/autocratic heart of this country. I'm not a strategist, but I would think that convincing these families to desist from overthrowing our "democratic experiment" might be to their advantage.

But... they are too stupid too disorganized to rain down some massive heavy military artillery style attack. IMHO They are like that idiot bundy. Bat shit crazy fools....talked about how they were never leaving they would ALL go down in a blaze of glory- Waco style no less. 10 days in they were calling on their brethren for... supplies.. in particular toilet paper... really? You're gonna hol' out forever.. but what to do when there's no TP??!!!

Likely without legal advice.

and it won't work. There's "no expectations of privacy" when using .gov emails, as this bunch SHOULD have know, but unsurprisingly did not. Or else they're lying again, which is ALWAYS a good possibility.

I've been reading that there is a form all the new arrivals to the transition team and/or the administration have to sign, acknowledging that they agree that all their communications are government property. Like emails, for example. If that's true, then it seems to me Mueller has (or already got) unfettered access to any or as much of them as he wants or feels he needs to prove his case.

makes them cry foul, but when they had stolen (by russia) emails they were all about lock her up. there's just no low too low.

i hate trump and i hate republicans.

Otherwise they would have written that letter to the police or a judge. They sent it to congress which means it allows them to whine in public but nothing will be done about it. That's what you do when you make wild accusations with zero backup or proof.

they probably soiled their trousers too!

named John Gotti, so yeah, do not fuck with this decorated USMC combat veteran, or - no, wait.

Go ahead and fuck with Mr. Mueller all you like, bone spurs!! Whatcha got to lose, hahahahahaha!

Go ahead and fuck with Mueller.

Please proceed.

orange mango. Mueller is not a person to mess with or for that matter the Intelligence agencies. They are the grown ups here.

to non-incriminating emails. The ones they turned over would indicate that the others were incriminating. Right?

All they have to do is compare the list trump sent to the one the GSA gave them. Whatever is missing is what they were worried about. Those should fit into Mueller's puzzle quite well.

I love Robert Mueller!

...by not turning over the incriminating emails the Trump team were effectively lying to the investigator. Why would Mueller make requests to see emails that he already had? Was that in and of itself a legal gotchya? So, not only do you have crimes described in the emails, you've got more obstruction on top of that.

Which is against the law. Yeah. It's a gotcha. But a very serious one. It serves to get the culprit to roll over and start singing. And it's perfectly legal.

Failure to comply.

And he has three Aces so far

Two Scoops is trying to figure out how to pull four aces out of his sleeve with the casino's cameras on him while claiming that a standard deck of cards always has seven aces

This ought to be as entertaining as an episode of Cops where somebody explains "those aren't my drugs...because that isn't my purse with my wallet and 8 fake IDs...and that isn't my car...and I'm surprised there's a pipe in my pocket because these aren't my pants..."

esp. after that Malcolm Nance segment for Joy's opener this morning (tho I wouldn't have missed that and do NOT discount it at all).

After AM Joy which terrified me this actually takes most of that away. If Mueller takes Trump and his people down Mueller will be a big time character in our history books. A true heroic figure.

Lock them up!

It would better to say he just flipped his hole card, if you must stick with the Poker metaphor.

...a three of clubs, an Old Maid, a Fool, a Swamp, and an Out Of Gas.

you really think that Mueller is holding "evidence" ? lol

First of all, Axios got the news of the emails from a Trump transition team source, not Mueller. So to say that Mueller was somehow sending a message seems unlikely.

Secondly, Team Trump saying "there are no discussions about firing Mueller" is silly. When was the last time you could believe anything they said?

Then to say "This means he has a whole lot of people nailed for various crimes" because they (supposedly) didn't turn over all the emails he already had is meta-BS. We don't know they didn't turn over all the emails, and we don't know if any criminality was revealed in those emails, let alone involving a whole lot of people and various crimes.

One thing they do seem to have right is that Beckler probably really was supposed to protect Team Trump, but his falling ill and dying was more of a wild card, not an ace.

We can assume Trump did not turn over all the emails simply because PravdaUSA has gone insane that Mueller has them all.

Not sure when Mueller had all the emails, but very likely had them before any depositions. And nothing illegal as Fox was bellowing.

Logical inference based on known facts is not speculation, and unknown facts can become known inference as well.

Mueller is watching Fox more than Trump because Trump does nothing without a signal from his state media.

In a way Fox is giving away strategy to Mueller in advance.

by leaking that he has all these emails. But the knowledge that he has the emails came from the transition team itself, in a letter they sent to Mueller. So this blog post/opinion is based on a false premise to begin with. Mueller didn't leak it, so he couldn't be protecting himself against being fired by leaking it.

"We all learned all of this because the Trump transition’s team lawyer, Kory Langhofer, wrote a seven-page letter to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and the House Oversight and Government Affairs".

The ace pulled is the agreements warning use of the email system had NO expectations of privacy. Clear enough to me!

Don't you remember when they said they wouldn't be able to imprison Nixon because it would be too detrimental to the country? All kinds of crap goes on that we never get to hear about. At any rate, I would be more than inclined to guess you are correct. Sounds like a made-up story that also doesn't make sense.

Moreover kind of think team trump has gotten a little wiser after firing James Comey in that the heat only got turned up a few more notches. After all the years of all the stunts the Republican have pulled why or who thinks what is going on now will be any different?

Robert Mueller seems to be have stated over and over again that his job and purpose is to investigate if there was interference into the 2016 elections from foreign entities. My guess is that he has seen and knows a lot about many things but staying focused is how operates and keeps his job.

revealed in those emails, let alone involving a whole lot of people and various crimes."

Would they have turned over emails that were incriminating if they didn't know they already had the emails? If they are guilty, as I assume they are, they would have had emails to hide, and would have done so rather than basically admit wrongdoing directly to Mueller.

It's genius. If Mueller had announced he had the emails from the beginning, they would have held their cards far closer to their chests. Remember, they were assumed to have made the emails inaccessible. And Mueller, of course, would have told the recipient of the leak that they must blame a transition team member - and of course Mueller has already indicted and is in a position to give a plea deal to, two major players on the transition team. How else would Mueller have hidden the fact that he was leaking very sensitive information?

in the OP blog post. Apparently that guy has no more information about this than you or me. The transition team is claiming that some of those emails are privileged conversations between attorneys and clients. I am confident Mueller has his bases covered on this, but all this discussion about "incriminating" emails is based on pure speculation in a blog post, with a false premise to begin with.

To paraphrase Obi Wan: "This is not the insider information you were looking for".

the cards. We can only guess from each player's bluffs and bets.

The talk about him doing so, firing Mueller, is based on conjecture so the entire premise of the article in the OP is pure speculation.

to enable and push trump to fire him - that's why the con reps and fox are saying that shit - it's all over the radio

and since when would mueller's firing NOT be preceded by trump saying he wouldn't fire him....

Rush as as much inside info as you and I do.

with the trump team.... happy holidays

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/924111999306313729/pu/vid/1280x720/rzsxXzUZlwXav1RJ.mp4

Remarkably un-Democratic ideas.

If Trump is about to make a movie, Momday would be a great time to unseal some indictments.

Could be locked up for a few day.

under his buyline. http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/ace-sleeve-mueller-2/6700/

Yet this story has no attribution. What gives? Just ripping off content is not cool.

What is up with that?

"Palmer Report explained at the time (link), this move left Trump’s team with only one option: back down, and quickly."

The website is an aggregator of news.


Read the whole article, it is very interesting!

That link within the article is to a different Palmer Report piece.

There is no byline. What is this source?

And whoever the author is makes it sound like Mueller won't go after certain people if Trump does back down. And that's hogwash.

FROM ARTICLE:

"Palmer Report explained at the time (link), this move left Trump’s team with only one option: back down, and quickly."

That's not cool.

"Palmer Report explained at the time (link), this move left Trump’s team with only one option: back down, and quickly."

Some folks do not know what a news aggregator is, I get it.

Aside from that, the article is great for OUR side, is it not!!

That is a link within the article to a different Palmer Report piece (Palmer report often links to its own other articles).

Attribution would be identifying this article as coming from the Palmer Report - which this web site does not do.

Also, Palmer Report is more than a little dubious as a source, so, good though this information would be for our side, I am not entirely on board with it being accurate.

I read the palmer reports because they are a good distraction from all the crap running around on the main news feeds. But it's not journalism; it's more along the lines of gossip meets conspiracy theory.

That said, I still enjoy it.

estate. Mueller and his team cut their teeth on taking down mobsters by tracking the money trail. There's also a "paper" trail in the form of the emails. Emails are so much more dangerous than hard copies of anything because they are collected by the FBI and the NSA for Homeland Security. It is hard to eliminate every trace of their existence, because they are available from anywhere with the right tools. Money and Memos took down the Trump Mob.

We were looking for a presidential hero, but we got a hero from Justice, instead. Hoover was supposed to be one of those, but turned out he was just a power-hungry politician.

Anyone see any similar response from ryan, mcconnell or others?

a treasure trove, pure gold

The rule of law, fact, logic, and science are still in control of the world no matter how much one tries to trash them

What's being implied is that certain people won't be brought to justice if Trump *does* back down. That's ridiculous.

In prison!

work for Mueller. He knows how to get this done.

And there is the stress of knowing you are mortally hated by some very powerful people.

Since they withheld evidence at minimum.

a credible news source. This needs to be corroborated and accurately interpreted. Trump can try fire anyway. There's no cause for jubilation until Trump is gone.

But the timeline and legal strategy make sense.

If the opposing lawyer requested emails from me, and I'm very inexperienced in this type of litigation, I may not think he could get them from a third source without giving me some type or notice that he'd made that request. That's possible. Its stupid not to know thats a possibility. But Mueller may have done this months ago, and they couldn't have done anything anyway.

nt

(in Arizona!) has a big (4" x 3" ) sign for this site: https://www.saintmueller.com/

You never know, given how stupid the Trump family is. Still, these are not personal of campaign team emails amongst themselves or to friends...Mueller got the emails from the government server that serves the "transition team," so the emails are after the election.

I'm not sure that Flynn, Trump, and others would have used the official govt server email addresses to plot giving things to Russia or making admissions, unless they accidentally used the wrong account. But you never know.

This could be one way they trapped Flynn in his lies (they also might have a tape of the Flynn conversations with the Russian rep).

Still, this is good news, since it could lead to indictments. BUT Mueller hasn't interviewed Trump or Pence yet...so no "lying to the FBI" charges there. Did the FBI interview Kushner yet?

Apparently the Trump team gave up trying to fire Mueller, but instead is doing a campaign to discredit the team.

The country can't stand anymore of this, and if that heinous Republican tax scam passes the U.S. might as well kiss it's ass goodbye, forever! For all that Dog holds holy, DO IT NOW!

I am worn out with mis-information in the media, and even on this web site.

Our hopes to maintain some semblance of a democracy may rest on Mueller and his team.

If Dems ever get back to controlling the WH and congress I would hope there would be some kind of action against Fox News.....slant is one thing, outright lying is another.

Oh and we would then need to make sure voting is accurate and foolproof, and either do away with the Electoral College or make the ratio of vote to population uniform. Had either been true since 1999 no Iraq War, likely no ISIS, no Drumpf.

until this is cleared up. I think he's in office due to treason. Meanwhile, all the rats he's appointed are working quickly to fuck up our country. I hope there's a mechanism for undoing everything he and his vile appointees have done during his illegal occupation of the White House.

you have to always be several steps ahead.

Yeah, I know, not a good long term strategy....

I just wanted to say “Release the Kraken!”

(goes off to see if the original “Clash of the Titans”is on Netflix)