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BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
2. Protest have been planned for a few weeks. Here is the link.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 05:48 PM
Dec 2017

Indivisible and other groups have already planned for such an event. I signed up 2 weeks ago and made 4 signs today since we must be ready and willing to show up with little warning. Hundreds of cities are included on the list. Check out th link and see if you have one near you.
https://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/search/

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
3. Where was this last year? When the FBI and CIA was suppose to do their jobs?
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 05:54 PM
Dec 2017

To me it's incredible what trump and Putin got away with.

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
4. I agree and have been thinking the same.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:16 PM
Dec 2017

Over a year ago I even asked my sister, "What is our government doing about this Russian shit?". She told me, "They are on top of it but we don't know what they have info on...don't worry, they do this for a living". I wrote to Obama and many others asking them what the Hell they were doing to secure the voting process and get rid of Russian interference. Everyone reassured me that our govt was on top of it.

Were they? If so, why did they allow it to happen? Whose side is our intelligence on? They could've stopped the election ahead of time, so why didn't they?????

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
5. The problem is that state election systems are controlled by the states. Obama tried to have
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 07:49 PM
Dec 2017

get them some special designation as essential infrastructure, which would have allowed the Federal government to go in and secure the systems, but the GOP blocked him. And Obama wasn't a dictator.

BumRushDaShow

(129,310 posts)
7. See this article... excerpt below
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:01 PM
Dec 2017

from Jeh Johnson's testimony -

States Rebuffed Federal Help on Russian Hacking, Says Former DHS Head

”My staff and I repeatedly encouraged state and local election officials to seek our cybersecurity assistance.”

David Corn Jun. 21, 2017 11:40 AM

<...>

As summer 2016 progressed, my concerns about the possibility of a cyberattack around our national election grew. I probed with the cybersecurity experts at DHS what more we could and should be doing. We developed a plan to engage state election officials to offer our cybersecurity assistance to them. My staff also suggested to me that I could, under my existing authorities, declare election infrastructure to be “critical infrastructure” in this country. There are 16 infrastructure sectors—e.g., financial services, dams, transportation, government facilities, the defense industrial base—that are already considered critical infrastructure. By adding election infrastructure to that list, for cybersecurity purposes it would principally mean two things: (1) that election officials, upon request, would be a top priority for the receipt of DHS’s services, and (2) that, as part of critical infrastructure, election infrastructure would receive the benefit of various domestic and international cybersecurity protections.

On August 3, 2016, in an on-the-record session with reporters, I publicly floated the idea of designating election infrastructure in this country as critical infrastructure.

Twelve days later, on August 15, I convened a conference call with secretaries of state and other chief election officials of every state in the country. I told state officials that we must ensure the security and resilience of election infrastructure, and offered DHS’s assistance to the states in doing that. I also reiterated the idea of designating election infrastructure as critical infrastructure.

To my disappointment, the reaction to a critical infrastructure designation, at least from those who spoke up, ranged from neutral to negative. Those who expressed negative views stated that running elections in this country was the sovereign and exclusive responsibility of the states, and they did not want federal intrusion, a federal takeover, or federal regulation of that process. This was a profound misunderstanding of what a critical infrastructure designation would mean, which I tried to clarify for them.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/states-rebuffed-federal-help-on-russian-hacking-says-former-dhs-head/


You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Why would they listen to some "n****r" appointed by some other "n****r"?

Hekate

(90,769 posts)
9. Thank you for this. I knew the Obama Admin was working hard on this issue, but damn...
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:48 PM
Dec 2017

...an awful lot of our state officials are as stupid as the people who put them there.

BumRushDaShow

(129,310 posts)
10. They are bonafide "10th Amendment" folks
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 08:51 PM
Dec 2017

unless it comes to things they don't like that Democrats support. Then they are all up in your business!

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
6. Well I hope you're right about "determinative", Eric.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 07:58 PM
Dec 2017

So far, we've been seen and heard out the wazoo (see "Women's March", "March for Science" et al.), not to mention expressing 80-plus percent disapproval of the tax bill, net neutrality repeal, ACA destruction, CHIP defunding, etc.

And our being "seen and heard" seems anything BUT "determinative."

However, I live in hope.

wearily,
Bright

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