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Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:54 AM Dec 2017

Kurt Andersen: we know now -- unequivocally -- that people around DTR lied to the FBI...

Kurt Andersen on the importance of sticking to the facts - CBS News

In a political environment where "truthiness," lies and reckless opinions muddy the waters, a founding father's faith in facts may be what saves us, says author Kurt Andersen


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President Trump may well be telling the truth that he didn't personally collude with Russians during the election. But we know now -- unequivocally -- that people around him lied to the FBI about conversations with Russian government figures.
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What I crave from the Special Counsel's investigation is a recommitment to John Adams' line: "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - CBS News

Facts are stubborn things. I love that line! Gonna begin using it more often.
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Kurt Andersen: we know now -- unequivocally -- that people around DTR lied to the FBI... (Original Post) ffr Dec 2017 OP
"President Trump may well be telling the truth..." dchill Dec 2017 #1
What a pantload. He's lying, always lying. He was well aware SammyWinstonJack Dec 2017 #2
Like the followers of Hitler... dchill Dec 2017 #3

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
2. What a pantload. He's lying, always lying. He was well aware
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 05:49 AM
Dec 2017

of Russia's involvement to get him elected. He called on Russia to expose Hillary's Emails. Yeah tRump's blameless, it's those who ran his campaign that are to blame.

What a miserable year this has been.

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