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MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:41 AM Dec 2017

What Can We Actually Do?

That's a real question, but it's one we don't seem to want to talk about. With Republicans in charge of all three branches of government in Washington, a lot of things we normally do to influence what happens in our federal government are relatively useless.

Contacting Republicans in Congress isn't going to work. It never has worked, really. They're voting based on other criteria than contacts from constituents. Our Democratic representatives and Senators are doing their best but, without a majority, they can't prevent bills from getting through the House and Senate.

Taking to the street is temporarily satisfying, but the Republicans are still in the majority, and can simply ignore that. They do so on a regular basis, frankly. We stand very little chance of turning back their commitment to enriching themselves and their big donors by chanting and carrying signs.

Traditional actions are not going to change their minds. So, what can we do?

It's simple. Our Constitution provides us with the final checks and balances against a government that is acting against the public interest. We will, as we always do, have elections next year. All 435 seats in the House are up for election. One-third of the Senate is also standing for election, as are state legislative offices all across the country.

That election is just 11 months away. As Democrats often do, we have internal differences within our party. That, however, should not stop us from working together to elect people to replace Republicans who hold office. We need to look toward the broader goal of defeating Republicans, rather than toward the goal of voting only for individuals who share 100% of our individual points of view.

Every DUer who lives in the United States lives in a congressional district and a state. Every DUer who lives in the United States has an opportunity to affect elections for representation in the House and state legislatures. We need the help of every individual in choosing candidates and in convincing people who will vote for Democrats to actually go to the polls and vote next November.

We must put aside our ideological differences and work together to defeat the Republicans in every possible election race. That is what we can do, and it must start now. We saw what happened in Alabama, a state that is so solid red that nobody would expect a Democrat to win any election, much less a statewide election. It happened, though.

We need to take that example and apply it to our own local House and state legislative races. We need to apply it to Governor's races and Senate races where they occur. If we do that, we can regain control of our destinies. If we do not, we may forever lose our opportunities in the near future.

Is this a boring post? Are you tired of reading my posts calling for unity? If so, think about it one more time, I beg you.

GOTV 2018!

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What Can We Actually Do? (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2017 OP
Not a boring post. A good post. as usual. pangaia Dec 2017 #1
No, it is not too late. It is our only recourse. MineralMan Dec 2017 #4
Theres not much more we can do than vote. bearsfootball516 Dec 2017 #14
I vote. BadgerMom Dec 2017 #20
Mineral Man bdamomma Dec 2017 #2
Yes. Absolutely. If we don't succeed in 2018, MineralMan Dec 2017 #6
Keep pushing the truth. spanone Dec 2017 #3
Midterms, Midterms, Midterms! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #5
Thank you in advance for everything you will do MineralMan Dec 2017 #7
I have a feeling there will be some here Heartstrings Dec 2017 #10
Well, I've been ignoring the "annoyed" for years, now. MineralMan Dec 2017 #11
I'm with you!!!!! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #12
When I have raised a similar question, I have been faulted for apathy and pessimism Orrex Dec 2017 #8
I wish you were wrong, but evidence says you are not. MineralMan Dec 2017 #9
I have known for a long time that... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #13
Support Common Cause and return community funded elections. mahina Dec 2017 #17
It is impossible to understate: GOTV Saviolo Dec 2017 #15
Right. Also we can join Commom Cause and bring our Republican friends along. We are all aware that mahina Dec 2017 #16
Not boring Great! redstatebluegirl Dec 2017 #18
We have seen evidence that RandomAccess Dec 2017 #19
Good post. This IS what is needed. And about all we can do that results in real change. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #21
Street activism is still important, but only to the extent that MineralMan Dec 2017 #24
Thank you, MineralMan. gademocrat7 Dec 2017 #22
Voting is the ONLY cure world wide wally Dec 2017 #23
Don't just show up to vote and GOTV, though. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2017 #25
Yes! To Everything You Wrote! MineralMan Dec 2017 #27
This is an important post. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #26
Exactly. We should think theoretically, but act practically. MineralMan Dec 2017 #28
The sad thing is we need any posts or reminders for unity. Not HERE of all places. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #29
+100 MineralMan Dec 2017 #30
One thing protesting does do SujiwanKenobee Dec 2017 #31
I agree-the minority party has limited tools to oppose the majority Gothmog Dec 2017 #32
Yes our only recourse is to vote!!! Lifelong Protester Dec 2017 #33
VOTE. Don't sit it out. Don't "protest" vote. VOTE. DEM. ALL. THE. WAY. n/t CousinIT Dec 2017 #34

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
1. Not a boring post. A good post. as usual.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:45 AM
Dec 2017

However,

" We will, as we always do, have elections next year."


Next year is too late.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
4. No, it is not too late. It is our only recourse.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:50 AM
Dec 2017

It's foolish to think there is any other way to turn things around. There simply isn't. Nothing we can do until then is going to change the course the Republicans are currently on.

We can hope that Mueller's investigation bears fruit and forces Trump out, but we can't make that happen on our own.

The 2018 midterms are what we have. They're all we have. We had better make the most of that opportunity, or we may never have another chance.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
14. Theres not much more we can do than vote.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:41 PM
Dec 2017

You can call your representatives, but even that has it’s limits because they’ll only listen if they want to. Protesting is a feel-good, visible sign of resistance, but in reality it’s largely ineffective.

Donate to campaigns if you have the financial ability to do so, and vote straight Democrat in November 2018. That’s what we can do at this point.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
20. I vote.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:38 PM
Dec 2017

But in 2018, besides voting myself, besides donating time and money to campaigns, besides yard signs and bumper stickers, I’m going to find family members and friends, some of whom I suspect don’t actually get to the polls, and make certain they do next year. I’ve been thinking of Dems in my family who aren’t as engaged. I’m almost certain some of them don’t vote in off years. Heck, they live in Utah. I might not feel energized either. But next year, I’m going to follow up with them and one family who lives near Devin Nunes’ district. My goal is to get at least one more voter in my sphere of influence to the polls next year.

bdamomma

(63,931 posts)
2. Mineral Man
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:46 AM
Dec 2017

not a boring post, but we will really need to fight back in 2018. We are talking about our survival here.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
6. Yes. Absolutely. If we don't succeed in 2018,
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:51 AM
Dec 2017

we may not have another opportunity for decades, if ever.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
10. I have a feeling there will be some here
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:10 PM
Dec 2017

who will become annoyed with my "midterms" and "Randy Bryce" ops which will be amping up in the near future.

Thank you and keep up your good work here on du, MineralMan!

Orrex

(63,233 posts)
8. When I have raised a similar question, I have been faulted for apathy and pessimism
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 11:59 AM
Dec 2017

Somehow I have trouble believing that a march of 1,000 or 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 or 10,000,000 million people will make any difference at all to this entrenched party of liars, thieves and traitors.

"But our voices will be heard." Yes, heard and completely ignored, I suspect. Certainly Paul Ryan won't give a shit about what we have to say. Mitch McConnell won't bat a rheum-crusted eye at this throng of peasants.

A single check to Republican from the Koch brothers will fund an awful lot of indifference toward their constituents, and frankly I'm not very optimistic about the integrity of the 2018 and 2020 elections.


I would love to be wrong. Someone PLEASE convince me that I'm wrong!


MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
9. I wish you were wrong, but evidence says you are not.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:04 PM
Dec 2017

We all want something to do to fix this. Protests and demonstrations give us an immediate outlet for our frustration. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as we don't expect those actions to cause real change. They won't in this current environment.

Organizing as a political party isn't as immediately rewarding to individuals. That's one of the reasons it's so difficult to get people to work steadily to help elect people who will help make change. That's one of the most difficult part of politics.

And yet, it is the only action we can take that can yield the results we need. I keep writing that. I keep telling people that. I keep hoping they will listen and flock to their local Democratic Party organizations and ask: "What can I do to help?"

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
13. I have known for a long time that...
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 12:34 PM
Dec 2017

emailing, faxing, writing, and calling my Republican Senator and Republican Representative is an exercise in futility. I still do it, but have zero expectation it would have any impact on their decision-making whatsoever.

I share your concern about the integrity of the elections. The only thing giving me hope are the Democratic wins this fall.

Saviolo

(3,283 posts)
15. It is impossible to understate: GOTV
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:31 PM
Dec 2017

GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV

It flipped VA, it changed AL. It actually works.

mahina

(17,715 posts)
16. Right. Also we can join Commom Cause and bring our Republican friends along. We are all aware that
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:35 PM
Dec 2017

Money has replaced voters in importance. We can change that and we have to do it.

http://www.commoncause.org

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
19. We have seen evidence that
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:37 PM
Dec 2017

even some Republicans can and do respond SOMETIMES to mass "contacts" from their constituents. Please don't denigrate that as an ALSO viable thing to do. Besides, if we give that up, they'll get the idea we don't care.

And especially in this climate where Dems have been putting the fear of the Lord into some of them via our massive gains in recent elections, it's not a good idea to discourage people from contacting even their Republican MoC.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. Good post. This IS what is needed. And about all we can do that results in real change.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:50 PM
Dec 2017

It also happens to be the most effective.

BUT that's not to take away from protesting. It's important to show the world how we feel. It's important for the here and now, and for history's sake. PROOF that the masses don't agree.

It doesn't do any good to contact Republican representatives. None at all. It DOES help to contact independents and Democratic reps.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
24. Street activism is still important, but only to the extent that
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:10 PM
Dec 2017

it encourages people to go to the polls and vote, I think. I'm too old, now, to participate in that, but was heavily involved during the late 1960s and 70s.

In itself, protests and demonstrations do not directly cause change. However, they can wake people up and make them think.

GOTV gets them to the polls. It's the only way to convince reluctant or lazy voters to actually vote. Without that, nothing else does much good.

gademocrat7

(10,676 posts)
22. Thank you, MineralMan.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:59 PM
Dec 2017

We need to donate our money, time and talent to get Democrats elected. Transportation seems to be an obstacle for many voters.

DinahMoeHum

(21,814 posts)
25. Don't just show up to vote and GOTV, though. . .
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:16 PM
Dec 2017
Join your local Democratic Party committee or club.

Want to take over the Democratic Party? Can't do that until you are actually IN the Democratic Party. On the local level. Your local Democratic club or committee in your hometown.

You join, become a district leader/precinct committee member, attend the meetings, and learn who the players are and where the wires are pulled. Maybe even run for an office yourself, even a seemingly insignificant one such as water board, zoning board or library board.

Get leftists and progressives into the Democratic Party IN DROVES, and soon they'll influence the state and national party leaders to the point where you will see real change.

STOP WAITING FOR WONDER WOMAN or SUPERMAN.

Do it yourself. Join, get in there, canvass the neighborhoods, phone-bank, etc.

One more thing: Lose the political purity attitude, people.

Political “perfection/purity” is SHIT. The only thing that counts is WINNING.


Here's the thing: No matter how shitty their candidate/s may be, Republican voters turn out on every Election Day. Too many "progressives" and "leftists" don't come out and vote for Democrats, out of misguided purity.

THERE AIN'T NO SUCH ANIMAL AS A "PERFECT" OR "PURE" CANDIDATE. DEAL WITH THIS REALITY, DAMNIT.

OK, end of rant.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,912 posts)
26. This is an important post.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:20 PM
Dec 2017

And everything you're talking about is vastly more important that the endless and useless posts here smugly declaring that Trump and everyone around him is going to be indicted and frog-marched out of the White House any day now. EVERYTHING connected to the Mueller investigation pales in connection with the need to return our government to sensible leaders.

I am feeling very discouraged because I see our attention being focussed on a lot of the wrong things.

Here's something else that isn't properly discussed: States in which party registration determines which party you can vote for in the primary. If you register as an independent, you usually don't get to vote in the primary. Dumb. Or states where the party registration is overhelmingly one party, your heart is with the other but you register with that majority party just to vote in the primary. I saw it in Kansas. People who were strong Democrats registered as Republicans to vote in the R primary. "But I'll be voting for the Democrat in the fall!" they'll proclaim righteously. But there might not be a Democrat in certain races come the fall. A Democrat won't bother to run if the party registration is 70% or more Republican. Every time I read of a major race, House or Senate, where a candidate runs unopposed, I'm beyond discouraged.

So, fellow DUers, run for office. Especially run for your State House or Senate, more especially if your district at that level hasn't sent a Democrat to the state capitol in a while. At the very least you need to make voters aware of the possibility of a choice. Plus, redistricting is done by those people, and among the reasons there are so very many Republicans in Congress as well in the State governments is that they've controlled redistricting for some time now.

And to answer the question, yes, I have run for office. I ran for the state house of representatives over a decade ago. I was up against a popular, moderate, incumbent Republican and lost. In a three way race. I had a Libertarian running in my district also. But I did a lot of door-to-door and did well enough that the Democratic party realized it was a winnable district, and two years later the Democrat who did run won that seat. So it happens. It just takes time.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
29. The sad thing is we need any posts or reminders for unity. Not HERE of all places.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:29 PM
Dec 2017

Not on social media sites where allegedly liberals and democrats gather.

Think about that, for a minute.

An actual traitor working for the KGB is in the WH, the actions of said traitor and his party are destroying the country and the climate and we have to convince people to vote for ANY democrat next year?

Sad.

SujiwanKenobee

(290 posts)
31. One thing protesting does do
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 02:32 PM
Dec 2017

One thing protesting does do is give potential candidates an idea of how strong support for or opposition to a measure is. It gives a platform to run on and may bring stronger candidates out who can actually have some expertise in addressing particular issues rather than a "One size fits all" candidate that is more *meh* across the spectrum. These are unusual times.

I would like to see the businesses and moneyed individuals or their lackeys who are hand feeding these awful ideas exposed by name and just as much in the news as the Congress is. I don't want them to rest easily in the shadows manipulating things behind the scenes. And if there are elected idiots who just hand off responsibility of understanding what is in the paperwork for "going along for the party", I want to see those guys hoisted for all the world to see.

I want to see people elected who represent the best of future thinking and who have a sense of their relationship to humanity. It is time to look past electing political machines in human form.

Gothmog

(145,666 posts)
32. I agree-the minority party has limited tools to oppose the majority
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 03:13 PM
Dec 2017

We need a wave election in 2018 to retake control of the house and a major wave election to take the Senate. The major wave is actually possible now.

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