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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:36 PM Dec 2017

Did you all know drinking will be cheaper?

The final bill cuts taxes on beer, wine, and liquor. The Brookings Institute estimates that will lead to 1,550 more alcohol-related deaths each year. The study found that lower alcohol prices are directly correlated to more purchases and a higher death toll.

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Did you all know drinking will be cheaper? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 OP
We are going to need to drink heavily with theses assholes in charge. redstatebluegirl Dec 2017 #1
Gotta keep that alcohol cheaper than POT Egnever Dec 2017 #2
You can also make your own beer and wine jmowreader Dec 2017 #21
Fair enough Egnever Dec 2017 #23
Maybe they want the rate of alcoholism to be like Russia. :( Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #3
LOL More ways to keep up with the Putins treestar Dec 2017 #5
Right, we await our destiny to become a Russian client state. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #6
Ha!! Good one ID !! When they start pushing Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #7
Karl Marx said that religion is the opiate of the masses. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #9
Where I live, opiates are ... Orange Free State Dec 2017 #20
Yes the same thing in many areas now.... nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #29
Probably. Like most social remora, plutocrats facilitate drinking and risky behavior - in others. haele Dec 2017 #15
As America continues to sink to third world status, rates of alcoholism and drug abuse will Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #16
Excellent point Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #26
Russia has the highest alcohol consumption in the world. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #30
Special discount on Vodka genxlib Dec 2017 #4
Shit...my fav is made in Austin... Tito s Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #8
Someone in the lounge was talking about drinking vodka and wine. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11
Drinking vodka is easy, tovarisch jmowreader Dec 2017 #22
I may have to try this if Trump is in the WH much longer. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #31
I have been predicting that cheap vodka will soon be on American Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #10
Bet trump doesn't know about this he abhors alcohol Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #13
At the same time he is hooked on "diet pills" (speed). nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #14
Good thing that shanti Dec 2017 #12
duh...at first I thought you meant your great wine. then light bulb went off !!! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #17
How is it going to be cheaper? FreeState Dec 2017 #18
Evidently there's federal tax on booze? Cutting that Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #19
Yes but its not seen as a way of lowering the price: FreeState Dec 2017 #25
Wow interesting. Just read in 2012 federal Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #32
This is the most irresponsible bill in so very many ways. These FUCKS NEED TO PAY. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #24
The wine from drumpf's winery apparently sucks. democratisphere Dec 2017 #27
That was my absolute favorite Obama quote $10 Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #33
Ordinary wine and beer should not be taxed - they should be treated as food FarCenter Dec 2017 #28
Evidently so do repukes...but not for any sane reason like yours Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2017 #34
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
2. Gotta keep that alcohol cheaper than POT
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 01:38 PM
Dec 2017

God forbid anyone figures out they can easily grow their own weed and give up booze completely.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. Ha!! Good one ID !! When they start pushing
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 03:41 PM
Dec 2017

for us to go to church. Remember long ago reading that the communist leaders loved that because stupider people needed to be told how to live a good life

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
9. Karl Marx said that religion is the opiate of the masses.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 04:32 PM
Dec 2017

So you are right, booze and church are in our future.

haele

(12,682 posts)
15. Probably. Like most social remora, plutocrats facilitate drinking and risky behavior - in others.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 05:06 PM
Dec 2017

They'll sit on in their boardrooms and mansions, nursing their alcohol, while they watch the majority of the general population slide to self-medicated frustration and slow, gutless anger.
They think they've won when everyone else become emotional animals in the proper cages.

Haele

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
16. As America continues to sink to third world status, rates of alcoholism and drug abuse will
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 05:15 PM
Dec 2017

skyrocket.

The military used to give troops a daily ration of alcohol. And US military practically gave away
booze at the Officer's and NCO clubs. Huge bottles of booze, dirt cheap. Same principle you describe.

Rhiannon12866

(206,197 posts)
26. Excellent point
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 05:03 AM
Dec 2017

It was a serious problem when I visited there just before the USSR fell. I went there with my grandmother and her peace group in 1986. I can't imagine what the rate is there now.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
30. Russia has the highest alcohol consumption in the world.
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 11:17 AM
Dec 2017

This is from a 2011 WHO report.

25% of all Russian men die before age 55, most due to alcoholism and complications.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
11. Someone in the lounge was talking about drinking vodka and wine.
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 04:35 PM
Dec 2017

Is this a cocktail or consumed separately? I don't know.
We are going to need to know all about drinking vodka now that we
are a Russian client state.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
22. Drinking vodka is easy, tovarisch
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:08 AM
Dec 2017

Put bottle in freezer. Remove when you want to drink. Eat a pickle after every shot. Put the bottle back in the freezer when you've forgotten who the president is. Do not put empty bottles in the freezer because there's no point. (Come to think of it, don't worry about putting the bottle back. It'll never happen.)

And never, ever drink without a reason. If you have no reason to drink, drink pivo.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Bet trump doesn't know about this he abhors alcohol
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 04:47 PM
Dec 2017

He even went down to Junior's college and beat him up for a drinking mishap

FreeState

(10,584 posts)
18. How is it going to be cheaper?
Mon Dec 18, 2017, 08:31 PM
Dec 2017

Corporations get a tax cut, the owners of the companies make more - they won't cut the price - this is a raise for CEO's and the wealthy, not a commerce bill.

FreeState

(10,584 posts)
25. Yes but its not seen as a way of lowering the price:
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 03:29 AM
Dec 2017

Per CNN:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/16/news/beer-wine-whiskey-tax/index.html


It's unlikely the tax savings will be passed along to the consumer in the form of a price reduction on beer, wine or spirits. Business owners are looking to reinvest the savings.

"Any money we would save we would just invest right back into the company in terms of equipment, and we would hire more people," said Tom Lix, co-owner and founder of Cleveland Whiskey, a distillery employing 15 people that was recently toured by Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, lead sponsor of the amended bill.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
32. Wow interesting. Just read in 2012 federal
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:31 PM
Dec 2017

Government took in $9.7 billion on liquor excise taxes. So it would be interesting to figure out who put this in and their ties to the liquor lobby. No wonder these schmucks do everything in secret

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
28. Ordinary wine and beer should not be taxed - they should be treated as food
Tue Dec 19, 2017, 09:20 AM
Dec 2017

Fortified wine, high-alcohol beer, and distilled spirits should be taxed heavily.

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