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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:01 AM Feb 2015

Edward Snowden tells students mass data collection can hamper attempts to foil attacks

Source: CBC News

U.S. National Security Agency whistleblower and international fugitive Edward Snowden told students at Upper Canada College that the mass collection of data by government spy agencies can get in the way of foiling terrorist plots.

Such programs can sometimes take resources away from targeted data collection of specific threats, Snowden, told students at the private school in Toronto, where he was invited to speak.

"The problem with mass surveillance is when you collect everything, you understand nothing," he said during the video conference Monday evening.

... Snowden told students that sometimes media coverage has focused too heavily on himself and not enough on the issues raised by the revelations of mass data collection. "Whether or not I’m Mother Teresa or Adolf Hitler, that has bearing no whatsoever on the content of the reporting," he said.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/edward-snowden-tells-students-mass-data-collection-can-hamper-attempts-to-foil-attacks-1.2940798

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Edward Snowden tells students mass data collection can hamper attempts to foil attacks (Original Post) Newsjock Feb 2015 OP
Surveillance isn't about mitigating terrorist threats Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #1
Exactly. n/t Smarmie Doofus Feb 2015 #8
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #13
This is the correct answer. woo me with science Feb 2015 #18
The NSA is wasting taxpayer money and time. They could do a much better job if they JDPriestly Feb 2015 #2
K & R elias49 Feb 2015 #3
Oh Comrade Snowden... SoapBox Feb 2015 #4
Yes, we should all just "shut up" LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #16
Duh JonLP24 Feb 2015 #5
Snowden stonecutter357 Feb 2015 #6
Unfettered unconstitutional government citizen surveillance LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #15
We spy and stuff. stonecutter357 Feb 2015 #17
warrantlessly....a giant mass fishing expedition on everyone LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #22
it IS making a lot more haystacks. pansypoo53219 Feb 2015 #7
k and r nashville_brook Feb 2015 #9
Oh, the 'content of the reporting' is very much front and center, Mr. Snowden. randome Feb 2015 #10
He was invited by the students to speak. Certainly not forgotten riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #11
Yeah, really hitting the jackpot with that one rep the dems Feb 2015 #14
Well done, Mr. Snowden. The world needs constant reminders of what's going on GliderGuider Feb 2015 #12
Thank you, Edward Snowden. woo me with science Feb 2015 #19
Oh yeah, the "it's not about me" bullshit again... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #20
"Quit making this about Snowden!" -Part II Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #21
Damn that Dali Lama and Stephen Hawking! LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #23
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
1. Surveillance isn't about mitigating terrorist threats
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:06 AM
Feb 2015

It's about every single person in the society knowing that if they cross the wrong people, there's a complete record of every detail of their lives that can be exploited as a weapon against them, with devastating effectiveness.

Surveillance has nothing to do with security and everything to do with intimidating those who dare to question authority.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. The NSA is wasting taxpayer money and time. They could do a much better job if they
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:42 AM
Feb 2015

didn't inundate themselves with irrelevant data. Or maybe they really aren't as concerned about terrorism as they are with intimidating the public and exercising some kind of morbid curiosity combined with a desire for excessive control. Anyway, this vast surveillance project is neurotic.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. Oh Comrade Snowden...
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 03:28 AM
Feb 2015

Just when I think you have finally shut up...you slither out from under Putin's chair and start yapping your flap.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
16. Yes, we should all just "shut up"
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:55 PM
Feb 2015

and stop yapping our flap. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

".. Snowden told students that sometimes media coverage has focused too heavily on himself and not enough on the issues raised by the revelations of mass data collection. "Whether or not I’m Mother Teresa or Adolf Hitler, that has bearing no whatsoever on the content of the reporting," he said."

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
5. Duh
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 04:21 AM
Feb 2015

If anyone doesn't have a problem with this kind of power & potential for abuse, don't know humans. Snowden kept his oath more than torturers, spies, etc. I consider what he revealed one of the biggest whistle-blowing revelations, I feel like I need to know things corrupt in nature as performing hacks on civilian infrastructure? Google, etc. Too much, he did which he felt was right and agree he was.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
15. Unfettered unconstitutional government citizen surveillance
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:35 PM
Feb 2015

dictated by the corporate class



Yeah.. that's funny!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Oh, the 'content of the reporting' is very much front and center, Mr. Snowden.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 10:13 AM
Feb 2015

You simply don't like that people don't appreciate your hyperbolic claims, which is why you find yourself saying over and over again "Pay attention" to a world that has largely forgotten you.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers, it's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

rep the dems

(1,689 posts)
14. Yeah, really hitting the jackpot with that one
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 02:24 PM
Feb 2015

I'm sure he's bragging to someone in Russia who wishes he'd just leave them alone as we speak

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
12. Well done, Mr. Snowden. The world needs constant reminders of what's going on
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 11:05 AM
Feb 2015

Lest the crucial issues become buried under a mountain of deflated footballs.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
19. Thank you, Edward Snowden.
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 07:23 PM
Feb 2015

The desperation of the smear machine is directly proportional to the gravity of the crimes against citizens revealed by the whistleblower.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. Oh yeah, the "it's not about me" bullshit again...
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 08:08 PM
Feb 2015

If it's "not about you", quit granting softball, scrutiny-free interview requests, and stop giving speeches and making movies...

Does Snowman's comments equally apply to Russia as well? Asking for a friend...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. "Quit making this about Snowden!" -Part II
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 08:45 PM
Feb 2015
:large

Fuckin' hypocrites..."It's not about Snowden" has always been code for "Don't ask him any hard questions other than how awesome does he think he is..."

But when it's time for praise and admiration, it's *ALL* about Snow-Wald

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
23. Damn that Dali Lama and Stephen Hawking!
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 09:24 PM
Feb 2015

Not to mention Barack Obama!

There all just doing it for the "praise and admiration"!

I mean why else would people be fooled into admiring them? They all must have hypnotic powers. It can't possibly be because each of those mentioned has achieved, or contributed something important to the world.

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