They are breaking any and every rule of civilized society for money and power.

Nothing else, really.

All they do is in the name of Allah.

I guess they need better PR people.

Isis has nothing to do with Islam. Despite being pounded with souras, dogma from the Koran, Islamic symbolism and claims of Allah and Muhammed supporting their cause.
Not a shred of materialistic ploy to be found. No advancement in politics detected. No outside source for violence EXCEPT Islam and its doctrine for jihadists.

Some people need to stop filtering reality. Especially here in Europe, where senseless killings are getting closer to home everyday.
In the name of everything that is humane, stop the self-proclaimed holy ones.

around these fuckers. These fuckers are coming for them and they will do the same thing. Fuck the region for allowing this and for not defending Islam against these people who are killing their own people. I could kill someone with my bare hands right now, these fucking vile fuckers.

The Empire of Snuff Flicks claims to be Muslim, but it isn't recognized as Muslim by Muslims.

But then, a good portion of these nutcases are "converts" from Western nations who clearly are enthused by the prospects offered for mayhem, murder, rape and general sadism, so I think we've got a self-selected group of psychopaths pretending to religious motivations, intermixed with a few believers, intermixed with mercenaries, all of whom really want money to support their lifestyle.

It is a very dangerous setup. Like taking a bunch of slightly more functional Adam Lanzas, merging them with a group of hired killers, and throwing a few Reverend Jim Jones types in. Then give them lots of weapons and some money, and see what they do when the money runs out.

And unlike previous "crusades," those nominally in charge have the internet as a way to recruit far beyond the normal borders. The IS social media department has a much wider reach than Soldier of Fortune or the village church. As a result, armchair psychopaths who might otherwise have festered in isolation or, at worst, formed a small cult, can easily locate others who share their completely f'ed-up worldview.

But lest people forget, the Christian Crusades very quickly devolved into killing orgies, perpetrated by people with varying levels of commitment to the religion. For many, participating in the Crusades was just an opportunity to see the world while earning money doing something you love.

of psychopaths who attract more psychopaths while justifying their actions through religious means.

They are disgusting and need to be stopped.

to stop murdering people by the score?
Honest, non-judging question. I like to look at alternatives. Do you have ideas?

I just fear we will end up droning innocents or targeting people who had nothing to do with ISIS. We always seem to have a lot of collateral damage. I just wish we could put them all out to sea on cardboard rafts, but we cannot.

Or countries in the area show some kind of investment in protecting themselves. But there is too much bad blood going back centuries for anyone to really do anything. There's no way that Iran and the Saudis are going to band together with the Kurds, the Syrians, ect to combat them. Most of them would rather kill each other than deal with a 3rd party threat. Someone might be able to kill or capture the people funneling money to them, but that would probably require a level of cooperation which is unrealistic in today's world.

And it seems that the more the US gets involved, the more terrorist groups are able to find recruits. It can't be us doing everything. The world has to want to do something.

Boko haram. Where is the line with the governments over there? How many kidnapped people... How many murders before they are going to take action against these people? Most of them are too busy fattening up their own bank accounts to do anything. Meanwhile entire of villages are being killed.

They are not in Europe, and have different problems. We have a lot of corruption too, but they have so much space and so many nations, some poor, some not so poor, so many differences. We have no idea who to support and how to begin to help. And the leaders continue to rob them and we kinda ignore it. I have no solutions for anything.
I just hope somebody comes up with something soon.

These 'people' are some sick fucks.

I mean, who does this shit? It's like a whole crew of Jeffery Dalmers...

Where have you been?

A lot of this is known from ISIS' own propaganda vids.

Here's a selection of some relevant stories:
13 kids killed for watching soccer game:
http://www.independentsentinel.com/horrific-isis-publicly-slaughters-13-teenage-boys-for-watching-a-soccer-game/

Gotta get 'em young!:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/isis-trains-child-soldiers-camps-cubs-islamic-state-n241821
http://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-teaches-children-behead-training-camps/story?id=25303940

When they're hungry enough, they will volunteer:
http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-youth-recruitment-life-isis-ruled-raqqa-so-grim-parents-are-giving-their-1719124

14 year-old rethinks, surrenders in suicide bombing vest:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/perspective/features/2014/12/27/Young-ISIS-suicide-bomber-surrenders-in-Iraq.html

Extra credit given by God for headless soldiers:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-child-soldiers-who-escaped-islamic-state-1419628277

What does that have to do with ISIS?

corrected. TDB page kept jumping, I must have copied the link when it was jumping. Thanks for the heads up

"i would not have chosen to make that mistake"

I don't know why the UN or somebody/anybody with influence who cares doesn't demand that any country funding, supplying them with weapons or helping them in any way, just STOP, and work together honestly to wipe them out, however they have to do it that doesn't endanger innocents. There's so much dirty game-playing here and everyone knows it, but seeing what they're doing now to even children, just DO something.

has become a useless, toothless organization? Just guessing.

I feel this needs to be authenticated. So far the beheadings and now the live burning have been of adults, I guess you could call them POWs, being brutalized for what the perpetrators feel are wrongs done to them. However, I keep seeing that young Kuwaiti girl talking about babies being thrown out of incubators by Iraqi soldiers that turned out not to be true.

When you're told complete fabrications so many times, it is confusing as to what to believe. But how do you confirm anything when they all lie?

We are tired of war, but if children are being crucified etc., a recluctant nation can be rallied to go to war. I don't think the Obama administration itself is doing this but others could be doing this to push the administration to war. I'm sorry but I need evidence and in this day of cell phone photos, I think we should wait until they materialize.

I mean an international peace-keeping force, and an oath among nations helping them with money and weapons that they will stop it completely - I think that would do more to hurt them than anything. But yes, thinking of all the lies leading up to Iraq, Libya, the crap being done in Venezuela, the ramping up the hatred for anything Russian ... why can't people just leave one another the fuck alone and these horrors wouldn't exist in the first place. But if it's true they're doing this now to even children and can be proven - it's got to be stopped. What a nightmare.

If it's true then I'm wrong but I'm not paid to be your editor.

being reported by TDB and Huffington Post, it's on you to post it and make all of us, including myself, aware the Huffington Post has published a misleading article.

I merely suggest there be some empirical evidence before everyone goes off half cocked screaming for war. If you think this really happened then you need to expect some of us are more cautious since we have been hoodwinked before.

I was under the impression you were a loyal DU member, interested in getting facts out there. If this account of ISIS horrors is false, I would think, as a loyal member, you'd want to get the correct news out there for DU'ers. All I did is ask you to provide that information if you come across it before I do and said I looked forward to reading it if it is false. Why are you getting yourself all worked up?

I've seen nothing on the news not even Al Jazeera or Democracy Now!, so it seems even the journalists are pausing on this. I'm not dissing you for posting this. It's the right thing to do but you can't accept this as fact until the facts emerge. Right now it's just rumor.

Please read this comment, below: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141006219#post30

Why should anyone here be required to prove a negative. Go away until you have something real, ok?

the chances of me beating "my wife" are slim to none. However, I've never beaten my husband so, your question is immaterial. I didn't ask Cleita to prove anything, I encouraged him/her to post whatever info she/he comes across which disproves it. Check out the updates I've posted in the OP.

Presently, it's a news article referencing people denouncing what they identify as a report that says this happened. Third-hand information at best.

I can't help but sometimes feel as if there is an "outrage machine" with a dial on it, and it is being slowly turned to see how far it needs to go before... some reaction happens

it is to be cautious when there's an MIC motive to inflame.

"ISIS has been executing children in this medieval fashion and then burying them alive"

If they were executed, could they then be buried alive?

These ISIS bastards need to die....all of them!

I sincerely hope Cleita's skepticism regarding the validity of the article proves true. If not, and the allegations are true, I suspect all hell is going to break loose (far worse than it has already) for ISIS

A United Nations watchdog reports that ISIS has been executing children in this medieval fashion and then burying them alive.

Most think of that group in terms of money. He spoke of the effects on children for the most part, and the only thing related to money was that some of the recruits are so desperate from poverty, they'll do anything.

But he spoke about those who are leading them to do these things that people would never do otherwise. He said there was no way to rationalize the acts we are discussing being done, not by religion, wealth or anything else.

The Armenian Genocide is sometimes referred to as "The Forgotten Holocaust."

out of incubators?
Yeah.

has made all this up?

lying is nothing new. What? It's the "UN"! Surely they wouldn't lie! I mean, the UN is basically the US. If it's valuable propaganda, then run with the story. Who's in position to disprove it?
And somewhere I saw that the link was to somethimg called "popist'. Whoa! Take it to the bank!

but can't think of how making this stuff up helps them in the slightest. My beef with the UN is they've become beholden to tin pot dicators and useless in general. But outright lying about isis? When the evidence is right in front of you? These vermin put their "greatest hits" right there on youtube.

But ISIS's track record would suggest that a reasonable person could see how they would do things like this.

Seriously though,How exactly, does one execute a person by crucifixion, then bury them alive? Wouldn't they already be dead?

seeing that quoted in the links above. Here's what I found at this link

http://popist.com/s/726dc52/

The UN body, which reviewed Iraq's record for the first time since 1998, denounced "the systematic killing of children belonging to religious and ethnic minorities by the so-called ISIS, including several cases of mass executions of boys, as well as reports of beheadings, crucifixions of children and burying children alive".

ISIL has committed "systematic sexual violence", including "the abduction and sexual enslavement of children", it said.

"Children of minorities have been captured in many places... sold in the market place with tags, price tags on them, they have been sold as slaves," Winter said, giving no details.

The 18 independent experts who worked on the report called on Iraqi authorities to take all necessary measures to "rescue children" under the control of Islamic State and to prosecute perpetrators of crimes.

The abduction of girls as young as 12 who were for sold and used for sex slaves.

The killing of children by gunshot wounds to their heads.

Back in 2008 Al Qaeda used a mentally challenged woman as a suicide bomber, so that's not unheard of either.

The crucifying of children is new, as is the burying them alive. However, ISIS has been reported to torture boys they've taken for "religious reeducation" before according to HRW.

This isn't about taking over Iraq or Syria. This is about killing all those who don't follow their brand of Islam. It's a modern day Crusade. Not a civil war.

as if what they've done already wasn't horrible enough. This place
blows my taco sometimes.

Pacifists are often the first to die, and this coming from one of the greatest
liberal radio hosts on air, Ray Taliaferro.

People who claim they're progressives and now not even the UN is a good enough source for this. I'm not the biggest fan of the UN but holy shit!!! Even I don't think they'd make something like this up. It's not like these vile animals have given anyone reason to doubt any of this.

and his murdering rampage to claim the :"mother land"

and that we're just using "feel-good tribalism" to excuse the crimes of Washington...